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unpaid reference sheet

WHO: Rayd / Hytyle / Aprilycan

WHERE: fur affinity

WHAT: reference sheet

WHEN: July 21 to yesterday morning

EXPLAIN: user posted to FA forums in search of an artist for making a reference sheet. we agreed that I would be paid 60 during the process and remaining 40 upon completion. since being around 60% of the way through, I have been asking for partial payment; user has in response, acted like a victim by me asking for payment, suddenly reversing the affirming that my style works for them, that they like what I'm making, and claiming they hate it and therefore don't need to pay me. they have even said i'm witch hunting them, which is hilarious! since I've given up being paid the rent money i still need and have moved on to simply wanting to warn other people that this person is insincere and dishonest in their dealings.



at first it seemed like a good fit.
I gave them a choice of pose and got started.
I asked them for feedback about the quality of linework and style.
I started in on color and texture, adjusting when they had feedback, but the word "perfect" was thrown around a lot.
Created multiple versions for comparison and customer design choice.
Started in on the extra offers I included - poses with his outfit, offers to illustrate him using magic. Things people usually don't include in one reference sheet package.
Around this time I started asking for payment and realized they most likely weren't planning on paying me.
making a personal post to vent about what happened, they comment to harass me, while blocking me, meaning I technically can't reply to their weird victim posing.

all said, I think some people are just best avoided at times. I don't know what's going on with this person, but I'd glad a platform exists to warn fellow artists. am I sad? yes. can I pay the rent without this income? not yet. am I going to waste my time harassing this person like they're harassing me? definitely not. but now I know I can check for names here if someone I'm working for seems fishy, and hope everyone stays safe out there.
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rendrassa
Aug. 24th, 2018 12:13 am (UTC)
Did some digging and saw they posted a journal telling their side but admitting they deleted all their chat history. (which with Discord isn't really possible unless you manually delete each message, I believe?)

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8851314/

https://imgur.com/a/Bj3Z050 (In case of deletion.)

The client is claiming that the screenshots are being used "out of context" so if the OP wouldn't mind posting more of the chat, especially where the client approved more of things, I would be very appreciative.
celestinaketzia
Aug. 24th, 2018 12:14 am (UTC)
If you delete a whole user from your list, then you can delete the whole conversation. I've never tried to readd someone I've deleted, so I have no idea if readding them will bring back the chat history.
rendrassa
Aug. 24th, 2018 12:25 am (UTC)
I have deleted people before and when added back, the chat history remained. Now, this was a while ago, but I doubt it's changed. I know Telegram allows for chat deletion, but I'm glad Discord doesn't because it's a lot easier to compile evidence that way. The client probably thought they deleted it when closing the chat tab with the OP. Since there are screenshots from their side after being blocked, the chat history is still there.

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