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Artist Beware ~ mrpickles66

WHO: mrpickles66 FA NSFW

WHERE: On Furaffinity via notes.

WHAT: Line art piece [X] of his Spaxk character [X]

WHEN: First note sent on July 4th at 5:30PM EST, finished artwork on July 8th and continuing trying to get the payment.

PROOF:
First note string [Read from bottom up] NSFW DISCUSSION
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vp25rf5pb07hu63/notes1.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gb2q278vy34kmw9/notes2.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cayaxwqar9d8dy7/notes3.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dp6xih8ofpqq01r/notes4.png?dl=0

Second string [After artwork was done]
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a02jrnnmi1z08zq/string2%201.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dkg1xh55dvyc6m3/string2%202.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e6y7sll3llcq5qx/string2%203.png?dl=0


EXPLAIN: After a long day I check my FA notes to see if anymore commissions and I have a note saying "hi" and in it, they explain they want a piece of art, no explanation or what exactly they want. [X] he counitines to be a bit hard to get information out of until finally I start getting some answers. After what style he states he wants, he requests some scat and farting porn with on my commission price sheet it CLEARLY states what I do and do not do for NSFW pieces.[X][NSFW DISSCUSSION] This was my first red flag that something didn't seem right if he didn't read what was on the commission prices.

He then mentions that he wants to see it before it's done which is strange since it's a very simple line art commission and there tends to really be no WIP updates for it.[X] which also raises another HUGE red flag for me.

I finish the artwork anyway because I figure I could hope he would pay me, either way it's good practice. I note him up stating I was done and it's now time for payment. He starts trying and TRYING to get me to show him the finished artwork before he pays for it.[X] I stood my ground however. Then when it comes to payment he starts lying about sending it and still trying to see it [X] also mentioning that his Paypal "wasn't working" , then changing his story to that he doesn't have 5 dollars only 3.[X]

I send him one more note stating: "Or maybe this entire time you've be wanting to "see it" so you can just upload it elsewhere without having have paid for it."

He hasn't responded shockingly.


EDIT [July 13th 2016]:
He has since paid but I am still watching out for refunds so for a bit this may be resolved.

EDIT [July 28th 2016]:
He has since been banned off of Furaffinty however I just received an email from Paypal for a money request [because he can't get it refunded] from him.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmd2utxwj8bxzm7/Untitled.png?dl=0
Aka he is trying to get his money back from the completed artwork. Which has been given to him.

I set him a email in huge red font NO

EDIT [August 1st 2016]:
He has now taken it to claims for Paypal as a dispute and I right away filed for Paypal to make this a claim since he cannot be reasoned with.

EDIT [August 4th 2016]:
Paypal has oddly enough decided to refund me AND him at cost to them which is weird but this saga is now finally over.

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Comments

( 22 comments — Leave a comment )
celestinaketzia
Jul. 9th, 2016 05:27 am (UTC)
Wow you have the patience of a saint, let me tell you. For sure a beware very well warranted.
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sacch
Jul. 9th, 2016 05:30 am (UTC)
Yikes, it's basically a direct rip with color swaps.
kayla_la
Jul. 9th, 2016 05:31 am (UTC)
MOD COMMENT
I need to screen this because of a lack of NSFW warning for the second picture. Feel free to repost it with the proper warning attached.
sacch
Jul. 9th, 2016 05:29 am (UTC)
I'm so sorry this happened to you. Beware well warranted, clearly he doesn't care about the value of your art or work. $5 is not a lot and I'm pretty speechless?

On top of that, I wouldn't ever work with a customer like this, just because of the fact that getting information was like pulling teeth. That would be enough for me to say that I won't be taking the commission and I wish them luck finding a more suitable artist.
kattotang
Jul. 9th, 2016 05:35 am (UTC)
On one of the images they've uploaded, another artist outright asked them why they stole the art. So I'd say your guess is spot on. Beware well warranted, this is definitely someone to avoid.
laughsatthunder
Jul. 9th, 2016 01:17 pm (UTC)
OP, unless the rules were changed I believe you can't link an A_B onto the bewaree's page.
sbneko
Jul. 9th, 2016 04:44 pm (UTC)
I believe the OP can, but not someone else.
kupoming
Jul. 9th, 2016 05:27 pm (UTC)
Based on their mannerism I'm starting to wonder if Pickles is underaged/really young, like between 11-15 because I'm having a really hard time figuring out if they are just playing clueless or actually are oblivious to everything. So much red flags are going off here. Sorry this happened to you but it sounds like you dodged a bullet.
fawkatronic
Jul. 9th, 2016 08:20 pm (UTC)
Based on some facebook posts an comments on their page they seem to be a person well known for stealing art and characters as a way to harass furries (and making stolen characters do some unsavoury things).
jebboy
Jul. 9th, 2016 08:44 pm (UTC)
That ref though.
That's like a very obvious case of a recolor job. The amount of jpeg artifact on the image alone is enough of a red flag. Yet you can also see parts where the fill tool was used and that the background wasn't even fully filled properly. The eyes were left alone in that and it shows.
There is also the fact they seemed to have stolen something already.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/20466421/
archived link in case he hides the comments: http://archive.is/75DGs
and if you compare the two you can see the coloring process looks the same. Basic use of fill tool while leaving some parts untouched.
This is a 100% needed beware.
ime2667
Jul. 10th, 2016 03:01 pm (UTC)
Screened Comment Repost (with NSFW warning!)

His ref is even just a badly photoshopped pic of Starrik:

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14595263/

Who he proceeds to make fun of here?? (Or fetish art since that's what he's into?):

NSFW: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/20486558/

I really don't have much to say on the beware since it really speaks for itself. Sorry you had to deal with that
pastelpirate
Jul. 10th, 2016 09:31 pm (UTC)
Literal dozens of people have had run-ins with this user via his Facebook account, including myself.

This is also stolen. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/20178456/ (Original: http://inuhoshi.deviantart.com/art/Hiru-Yoru-Reference-Sheet-203576902)

On Facebook, he's sent messages that contain fetish art with stolen characters on a massive scale and has evaded a block at least once, as I blocked his original account and received a message from a new account with the same messages, info, pictures, etc. mere days later. So, TL;DR, this isn't the first time he's caused issues. I can't decide if he's a troll or if he's extremely immature and clueless. (I don't consider it an enormous issue, but I have screenshots of this, if someone wants them.)

Sorry you went through this, though! I would advise you to never start a commission until payment has been received in full, and to possibly resale the sketch for this as a "Your Character Here" pose. c:
foreveranonymus
Jul. 11th, 2016 04:10 am (UTC)
purpule
Jul. 11th, 2016 09:41 pm (UTC)
...he seems to be obsessed with this Starrik person, which I find rather concerning for them
All of his art is either about Starrik or about his own rip-off-version

Even his ref is a bad recolour of theirs
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14595263/
paomcpout
Jul. 12th, 2016 12:06 am (UTC)
Yeah they have been talking to me about this and they have been harassed SO much by this guy
jebboy
Jul. 12th, 2016 07:40 pm (UTC)
Starrik may not be the only one
http://ryanhill92.deviantart.com/art/Anthro-hiru-600645020 (archive link: http://archive.is/q1Ij3 )
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/20544200/ (archive link: http://archive.is/fyrcq )

Ethier Ryanhill92 is mrpickles66 or Ryanhill92 has had one of his characters stolen by mrpickles66.

I highly doubt Mrpickles66 is the original creator if it does turn out to be stolen due to the fact Ryanhill had the character from the start of April while MrPickles only posted it recently.
dragontripmon
Jul. 12th, 2016 09:10 pm (UTC)
Re: Starrik may not be the only one
It's actually most likely him one of their recent submissions is called mrpickles vs. babyfurs in the gallery.
celestinaketzia
Jul. 12th, 2016 09:11 pm (UTC)
Re: Starrik may not be the only one
They're the same person.
kattotang
Jul. 14th, 2016 05:28 am (UTC)
Re: Starrik may not be the only one
They're the same person, however I'm pretty sure it's an anthro version of this character (that he already stole this ref sheet of before): http://inuhoshi.deviantart.com/art/Hiru-Yoru-Reference-Sheet-203576902
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celestinaketzia
Jul. 20th, 2016 10:33 am (UTC)
mod comment
Please keep this beware on track and do not bring up this information nor drop this user's real name in the community again.

This will be screened.
jebboy
Jul. 30th, 2016 07:16 pm (UTC)
Wow I'm glad the guy is Suspended, trying to get the money from you when you gave him the art is an asshole move. Specially when he wasn't willing to pay you in the first place.
celestinaketzia
Jul. 30th, 2016 07:18 pm (UTC)
mod comment
Please do not name call in this community.
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