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Beware - Honesty. /H0nesty

WHO: honesty. (FA), h0nesty(DA)
WHAT: I bought a Huion tablet from them, never recieved it. After two months I requested a refund.
WHEN: Paid Feb. 11, 2016, have not recieved tablet or refund.
PROOF: Post about selling the tablet (Cap) ,   Notes between us 1 2
EXPLAIN: A buddy linked me to the post about the tablet, I thought it was a great deal and jumped on it. Things seemed to be going well at first, I paid and she said the would mail it out the next day.
A little over a week goes by and I hadn't heard anything, so I asked if it had been sent yet. She stated that it hadn't because some things had come up. She said that she would send it out asap, and I was cool with it.
Another week goes by without hearing anything, and I asked for a refund as some urgent stuff came up in my own life (emergency vet bills). She replied saying that she had sent it out that morning.
I didn't hear anything about it for two weeks so I shot her another note, and she seemed surprised that it hadn't gotten here. At this point I had my doubt that it had been sent at all. 10 days go by with no contact so I noted her again, and she told me it had been sent back to her address for some reason. She offered a two part refund, which I was going to accept but I still really wanted the tablet.  I thought that maybe it was just being sent out with insufficent postage, so I offered to pay for priority shipping, and she was supposed to get back to me with the cost. I didn't hear anything for a week and at that point I gave up on reciveng the tablet from her.
I sent a note letting her know I had ordered a tablet from elsewhere and requested a refund. She said she would try to resell  the tablet to refund me and that has been the last I have contacted her.

I was mildy annoyed at the vague response, but I was going to give it until friday before I contacted her again, since she had said that is when her parents get paid. However, I noticed she had posted this a couple days after I had requested the refund, which pushed me into making this post. It honesty feels like she is going to drag her feet on refunding me, and I am worried I may never get one. I also have no confidence in someone recieving the tablet if she does manage to resell it. I have been considering doing a chargeback through paypal, although I'd rather not have it come to that.

***update***   - This has been resolved, last night (4/20) Honesty. sent me the full amout of the refund.
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kattotang
Apr. 20th, 2016 03:10 am (UTC)
I just want to point out that unless the tablet is under 13 ounces and within a certain size limit (which would qualify it for first-class mail), priority mail is probably the default option for shipping, because I think USPS just sort of phased out "standard" shipping? They no longer list it on their website, anyway. Even if they didn't, whenever I shipped things in the past priority was usually the same price (or cheaper if buying postage online) than standard, so you really shouldn't have to pay more for it, plus she should've factored in shipping costs when she sold it to you. Especially since priority automatically comes with tracking and can have insurance included for free for items worth up to $50... So if she really did ship it before, she should've provided you with a tracking number, and seeing the lack of that makes me think she never sent it in the first place. It's also a huge red flag that she says she has to resell the tablet to refund you (she should never have spent the money before the tablet was safely in your hands!) or how she said before that she'd have to wait for her dad's payday to ship (since like I said, she should've factored shipping costs into the price to begin with).

If I were you, I'd give her an ultimatum of refunding you by a certain date, and if she doesn't follow through with your deadline, just do the chargeback.
bearprince
Apr. 20th, 2016 03:29 am (UTC)
Seconding this, I happened to just drop by the post office today and every package I mailed out automatically came with tracking, even the ones that were sent first class and not priority. the only things I've shipped that haven't really come with tracking numbers are really cheap flat cardboard shipping envelopes, which, as the name would suggest, need to be paper flat.

sooooo yeah. definitely don't think they sent it. if they don't respond to this AB I'd definitely do a chargeback.
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wuvvumsoc
Apr. 20th, 2016 12:10 pm (UTC)
Honestly I'd go for the chargeback. I understand it's sometimes the last resort you want to do, but this person seems really dodgy about the whole thing and might be counting on you not doing a chargeback.

If you did a chargeback and the tablet arrives to you in the mail in the meantime then you can just pay them again.
jebboy
Apr. 20th, 2016 12:15 pm (UTC)
You aren't the first to make an AB on them.
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/880870.html
Is commission related but also about them. Considering that person had to leave a shout to get honsety's attention I'd charge back myself. You can always send back the tablet and you did tell them that you were getting a new one from a different place already.
blutfuss
Apr. 20th, 2016 04:53 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I wish I had seen this before I paid her.
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likeshine
Apr. 20th, 2016 01:03 pm (UTC)

Chargeback before it's too late!
spartanwerewolf
Apr. 20th, 2016 03:14 pm (UTC)
:/ Doesn't sound like they ever had any intention of sending it, tbh. How the fuck you forget to put the city, state and zip on a parcel, like... it takes effort to fuck that up.

I've never had something come back even one, let alone twice, and pretty much everything bigger than a letter or a badge comes with tracking by default, so I'm skeptical.

Anyway, do the chargeback. Never trust a flake to refund something before your paypal window closes!
sbneko
Apr. 20th, 2016 04:20 pm (UTC)
Where does it say she forgot the address details? I only read that she said it got returned for some reason.
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chaossal
Apr. 20th, 2016 06:16 pm (UTC)
Give a deadline for a refund, if it is not met do a chargeback. You have not given them a loan to be paid back later, you paid for a item, they did not give you the item, so you are entitled to your money back immediately.
mazz
Apr. 21st, 2016 01:57 am (UTC)
At this point I'd not even bother with a deadline, there's only so much time before you can't file a chargeback and this person has made it clear they're not going to bother to pay the money back.

Filing a chargeback for item not received is the best course of action right now and what the seller deserves to have happen to them for not bothering to pay someone their money back.

If they didn't outright say they had to resell the tablet to pay the money back I'd give them the benefit of the doubt but.. the fact they spent the money before even doing the simple task of going to the post office shows they don't care enough to pay the OP back.

Edited at 2016-04-21 01:57 am (UTC)
Enn Shaw
Apr. 20th, 2016 09:21 pm (UTC)
File a chargeback.
mazz
Apr. 21st, 2016 01:54 am (UTC)
File a chargeback through paypal now, you still have time.
sacch
Apr. 21st, 2016 02:54 am (UTC)
Seconding everyone else with the chargeback. The sender has proved unreliable so better safe than sorry.
mortymaxwell
Apr. 21st, 2016 04:21 am (UTC)
I would go ahead and file a complaint with Paypal. She keeps on opening commissions so she can buy things, like a new CD, etc. It seems buying things for herself is more important than paying you back.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7505042/
fastbreak333
Apr. 21st, 2016 07:29 am (UTC)
The irony of her having the username Honesty is astounding considering how shady her behavior was in trying to send you a simple tablet. She doesn't seem like a responsible person at all. I'd definitely file the chargeback before it's too late.
kell0x
Apr. 21st, 2016 07:51 am (UTC)
File a chargeback asp, the lack of tracking code really is a huge alarm bell
kell0x
Apr. 21st, 2016 08:22 am (UTC)
File a chargeback asp, the lack of tracking code really is a huge alarm bell
blutfuss
Apr. 21st, 2016 08:00 pm (UTC)
Last night she sent me the refund, I've edited the post to reflect that.
kayla_la
Apr. 21st, 2016 08:02 pm (UTC)
Good stuff. Marked this as resolved for you~
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Aspen Shilo Bear
Apr. 30th, 2016 06:50 am (UTC)
glad you got it worked out.
but i have to say. their username is ironic
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