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Monglor/Donro


Hello everyone,

Forgive me if this writing is sloppy or hard to follow, I've never done this before. But I've been advised to do so by FA admins.

INTRODUCTION
My name is Meesh, and I'm an artist on FurAffinity. A person under the name Monglor/Donro has been harassing me for the last couple of days because he did not win a commission slot from me during one of my regular sketchstreams.

MY WORK
I take sketch commissions during streams every Sunday. I ask the participants to shout out a number between 1 and 30, and they all supply one. I then pick a random number using random.org's random number generator. The person who guessed closest to the number gets the commission slot. I then ask if anyone would like to pay double price to jump to the front of the commission line. If there is enough interest, sometimes someone will pay triple price to jump in front of the doubler. Over the past couple months, interest has been good enough so that there is a doubler or a tripler nearly every round. Most of these "doublers" or "triplers" have the disposable income to do a double or triple slot every week, so I tend to do a lot of pictures for them. In the past I also took sketch commissions outside of the stream, but in the past couple of months I have been occupied by other projects and have had to restrict them to the stream.

I should explain that the reason I do so many pictures for the same people is that they are usually the only ones who go for a double or a triple slot. I figure that if they feel like going for these double or triple slots, I am not going to stop them.

THE START OF IT ALL
During my stream of January 5th, Donro/Monglor became irate because he had not won a commission ever, despite trying every week for "a year and a half". I do not actually recall him trying to win a slot very often, if ever. This last stream, he participated, and did not win. This spurred a rant about how the system is biased to people who have more money, and it's not fair to people who really want a commission but can't afford it. He was also upset that the same people seem to keep winning, because it's “boring”. Me and several others tried to defuse it and move on, but he wouldn't let it rest. I eventually became ruffled enough that I felt it better to end the stream early.

THREAT OF IMPERSONATION
He then sent me an email restating his position and trying to reason with me to change the rules. This meant preventing people who have won a slot from trying to get a commission the following week. At the end of the email, he said that he was “tempted to impersonate” one of my regular clients to prove that they win all the time. There are examples throughout his twitter of his attitude towards my practices and intent to harass. donro twitter

THE BLOCKING OF DONRO
Some days after the stream, I opened up for random chance slots in my Furaffinity journal. What I do is ask people to comment if they're interested, and then after 5 hours, I randomly pick the people who said they were interested, and they get a commission slot. There is no doubling and tripling in this instance. I also opened up for slots on Weasyl, where Donro/Monglor expressed interest in a commission. I didn't feel comfortable working for him because of his recent behavior in my stream, so I sent him a message saying so. meeshresponse

I then blocked him. Afterwards he sent me another angry email, from a different email address, basically stating how fucked up I am and how disappointed he was in me. This was followed by an angry tumblr message and twitter messages, stating the same. I blocked him everywhere I could.

My girlfriend had started talking to him, and he began to share his plans for trolling me. He admitted that he was planning to impersonate a regular client of mine both in Skype chat as well as twitter. intenttoimpersonate

There were several other tweets he made where he voiced his distaste for me. http://archive.is/8hOIw#100%
And threats that harassment would continue: http://archive.is/yGQxj

BANNED FROM LIVESTREAM
Sometime that same day, my livestream account was reported and banned. After over a year of streaming with no hiccups or angry customers, I can only assume Donro/Monglor was the person who reported it. I had heard through rumors that he was behind a slew of bannings of adult artists on livestream, and I assume he was angered by each of them in some way before doing it. livestreamban

PAYPAL CHARGEBACK PLOT
Before I picked the winners, My girlfriend started getting messages from that he was trying to get people interested in doing paypal chargebacks against me... basically, they would ask for a commission, pay for it, and after I complete the picture, they do a chargeback to get the money back. claim of interest in chargebacks

She told me he had coerced over 10 people into participating, but I do not have evidence that he actually did. He gave out a name of one of the winners, a user named Vertigo, saying that they were in on the plot. While he also fingered another user named Mastershake, I don't have a screenshot of that. admitting he uses different names

But after investigating and talking with Vertigo, it was revealed that he was not a part of this plot. He claimed that vertigo was banned from Weasyl and e621.net because Donro claimed that Vertigo was behind a chargeback plot, but this claim turned out to be false. vertigobannews

Here is a note sent from Vertigo to Donro cussing him out: vertigo response


DICK SPAM
My girlfriend had gained his trust, and he asked her for a dick pic of mine to troll me with. She found a random picture of an enormous penis online and sent it to him, expecting him to realize that it was not actually mine. He actually believed it.

Shortly after I picked the winners of my random drawing, an account with the name “Meeshisafag” spammed my front page with a link to the picture. penisplot

He also spammed my journal with links to the same picture. I hid all the comments, but the account still exists, albeit banned. Www.furaffinity.net/user/meeshisafag He also sent me an email from yet another email account with the dick pic link, saying, “this is only the beginning, young meesh”.

MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS WITH INTENT TO HARASS
He has a habit of making multiple accounts to get around each one that gets suspended. Notice the "meeshisafag" email. donroaccounts2 (1)

Each one has been suspended, but there's no reason to believe there aren't more. He apparently uses a proxy server to get around being IP banned.

ALLEGED STALKING
He as also claimed to have driven by my home address, with the intent to auction it off to the highest bidder. I have no proof that he as actually done this or if he indeed plans to do so. meeshaddress

CONCLUSION
Donro/Monglor's sole intent in life is to make business hard for other people, and to harass and troll others when he does not get his way. He is a spiteful, manipulative person who delights in causing trouble and damage to others. I hope this post sufficiently warns people to not get close to him, and to not take anything he says at face value.

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neolucky
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:43 am (UTC)
Mod Post
Hi! I have approved your post, but would you mind removing the censored photo out altogether and instead just leaving the text explaining it? It's a little graphic even when censored, thanks!
mazz
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:50 am (UTC)
Re: Mod Post
This user is a member here and likes to create and incite a lot of drama so I'd keep a close eye on this post. He's been banned multiple places (including FA and FD_2) for stalking and harassing multiple people.
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latiro
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:48 am (UTC)
not too surprised to see him up on A_B from what I've heard. Beware truly deserved

Edited at 2014-01-09 04:49 am (UTC)
williamca
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:51 am (UTC)
I am glad someone finally had the grit to stand up to his gall.

Just ugh, a beware on him has been warranted for so long.

Also as a note, I am not an FA admin. I merely advised you to make a beware against him for his actions. Sorry for the confusion there.

Edited at 2014-01-09 05:23 am (UTC)
donro
Jan. 9th, 2014 02:58 pm (UTC)
Williamstalker again hurhur
roxyfur
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:52 am (UTC)
Finally, he's here. Beware WELL warranted.
thecreativepen
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:54 am (UTC)
Where is Kayla-na's Squirtle icon when you need it?
Cannot believe what this person did, just because they didn't get a commission slot. Wow.
kayla_na
Jan. 9th, 2014 01:36 pm (UTC)
Right here!
sacch
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:54 am (UTC)
I don't have any words. OP, I'm so, so sorry you went through this.
neolucky
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:55 am (UTC)
This is a sad sad fact: Monglor/Donro (Goatro, Warmcatballs, ect,) Has been an issue for many artists for a long long time. I've had the very unfortunate place of being one of his more minor targets, and even recently he found and posted this to my deviantart -

http://comments.deviantart.com/4/1801155/3321120791

He's someone I would avoid at all costs and never work for. There's been a rash of folks lately being bothered by him, and I hope they come to tell their stories, he's a real nuisance.
donro
Jan. 9th, 2014 03:17 pm (UTC)
Oh hey you remember why I dislike you right?

Onta stream 2 years back; you called me and I quote a "diabetic spas*ic"

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0acorn0
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:56 am (UTC)
He spent the better part of two years stalking and trash talking me. And I know I'm not the only one that he's spent years of his time harassing.
neolucky
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:59 am (UTC)
He tossed a few tumblr notes at me some months ago, trying to convince me that you were being nasty on lulz (he had no idea we'd talked things out), and it was absolutely clear he was out to try to start crap. It was so pointless, and I'm not sure why he was even attempting it! He must think he's some super-manipulative-mastermind.

You already know about this as I told you personally the day it happened, but posting this as a record since there's a lot he's done! It's just nice to have a place to discuss it finally.
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slinkslowdown
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:01 am (UTC)
Jesus. Shitting. Christ.

I made a more and more horrified face with every line of this post. I knew Monglor had done some horrible things in the past, but fucking Hell, this takes it all even further than I can describe in words.

I'm so sorry you had to deal with this, OP.
ime2667
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:08 am (UTC)
I think it's funny some people believe certain things are owed to them. He doesn't get what he wants and throws a continuous tantrum. Nice.
theredangel
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:13 am (UTC)
Good LORD.

I've browsed the numerous posts about him on other communities.. but I have no idea he was this bad.

gaturguts
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:13 am (UTC)
I'm confused.. he really thought your girlfriend was with him on 'trolling' you?
meeshartist
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:51 am (UTC)
Yes, and I'm not sure why he trusted her with the information when he knew that we are dating.
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stokerbramwell
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:16 am (UTC)
Allow me to register my complete and utter lack of surprise at any of this.

AN ADDITIONAL WARNING TO ANYONE VISITING ANY OF MONGLOR/DONRO'S TUMBLR ACCOUNTS

He is known to harvest IP addresses and dox people. Proceed with caution.
gaturguts
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:36 am (UTC)
That's really scary.
Thank you for this warning.
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wuvvumsoc
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:16 am (UTC)
A friend of mine encouraged me to share this. It happened a few weeks ago and because I am not a part of any streams I have no way to verify, so take with a grain of salt.



0acorn0
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:23 am (UTC)
Yeah, his new hobby has been getting stream accounts banned by reporting them for pornography. He's done it to several artists already and is likely still doing it.
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staple_gunner
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:17 am (UTC)
donro is REALLY just. a special kind of person. he harassed me for a few days straight not even that long ago, block evading and everything because i wouldn't open commissions on weasyl, i would only open on da/fa. after i pretty much was like alright, i'm openning on weasyl now, he purposely block evaded to namecall and act really disgusting. when i was streaming, he purposely came in to do more namecalling?? he would also say things like, i don't deserve to be on weasyl, and stuff of that nature.

he also made a tumblr post about me and my 'awful practices', but since his blog gets ips, i decided to resist the temptation, and don't know what it says other than it's trying to drag my name through the dirt for no reason.

best to ignore him, i ended up replying a few times which just made him even more awful. when i stopped and cut him off completely, he left me alone.

but i'm glad people are speaking out against him like this, because it REALLY needs to be done.

Edited at 2014-01-09 05:19 am (UTC)
wuvvumsoc
Jan. 9th, 2014 07:31 am (UTC)
Have you reported him yet on weasyl for block evading?
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duster
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:19 am (UTC)
Jesus tapdancing Christ. I have so little words. I knew this guy was trouble but not this horrific and stalkerish.
0acorn0
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:55 am (UTC)
By the way, Meesh, you have nothing to worry about with IRL stalking. He lives in England. Should have included that in my first comment, but I originally only skimmed the post.
kohaku_chimaera
Jan. 9th, 2014 05:56 am (UTC)
How do people this entitled even make it through day-to-day life?
You, nor any other artists, should have to deal with someone this...Vile. :
china_kitty
Jan. 9th, 2014 06:40 am (UTC)
Holy cow! His behaviour is just vile. All that fuss just because he didn't win a commission.

I could relate to having a person like that before. (Not revealing any details of course) I can't believe Donro would cross the line like this.
magicporpoise
Jan. 9th, 2014 07:51 am (UTC)
That's scary. Wow, I don't sell my work often, so i haven't encountered him or anyone like him yet, it makes me kind of wanna back down on doing commissions. That is truly a terrifying situation. There is no excuse for his behavior.

I am a long time lurker, and never have I read anything here this bad.

Thank you for making me aware of him, I did not know of this person at all. Just.. wow. Kind of just scared to post a comment on this beware, haha.
starcharmer
Jan. 9th, 2014 04:23 pm (UTC)
Just so's ya know, I've been actively doing commissions for the past 7 years, and I've never had any problems with people like Donro. :) No need to back down and if you do encounter someone like this, just ignore them. Attention is what he wants.
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thaily
Jan. 9th, 2014 09:04 am (UTC)
Ugh, nasty..
thaily
Jan. 9th, 2014 06:30 pm (UTC)
"My girlfriend had gained his trust, and he asked her for a dick pic of mine to troll me with. She found a random picture of an enormous penis online and sent it to him, expecting him to realize that it was not actually mine. He actually believed it."

That's hilarious.

Also, Tigerdile allows adult streaming, you might wanna try them.
purpule
Jan. 9th, 2014 09:34 am (UTC)
Holy. Shit.
I just... I have no words, and apologies for the language, but just... I'm actually kinda sick in my stomach reading all of this, this is terrifying
starinthegutter
Jan. 9th, 2014 11:07 am (UTC)
Good lord. This guy has a LOT of free time on his hands. If I had that much free time, I'd be using it for more productive means. Beware well warranted.
funkicarus
Jan. 9th, 2014 11:34 am (UTC)
holy hotdogs, beware well warrented.

though the first thing to make me >:( was his claim that he was on your stream every time it was up for weeks/months. i had a guy like that...they seem pretty convinced that the only times they manage to catch the streams are the only times the streams happen.
thatpinkgenet
Jan. 9th, 2014 11:56 am (UTC)
Good grief, what a piece of work. Good to know there's people out there with that much time on their hands to be so malicious.
Beware well warranted!
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