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Artists Beware FAQ!

Hey everyone, what you're seeing here is a compiling of all our most commonly asked questions to the moderators of artists_beware! This list will always and forever be in constant motion, as people are curious and questions come quite often!

The Artists Beware FAQ


[Q: I received a warning from ____, are they a mod?]
Q: I received a warning from ____, are they even a mod?
A: The moderation team of Artists Beware is as so, in alphabetical order:

celestinaketzia = Mod/Maintainer
kayla_la = Head Mod/Community Owner
oceandezignz = Mod/Maintainer


Each moderator has a "mod icon", usually something cute with a top hat and a Mod/Moderator notifier in the icon; see my own for one example. So if you see these names or icons, you are talking to an actual A_B staff member!

We will also title any comments of importance with 'Mod Post' or 'Mod Comment', something in that vein.



as of 9/3/2014:[Q: How can I contact a Mod from A_B?]
Q: How can I contact a Mod from A_B?
A: We have a Staff List on our profile, but to repeat it here we go:
(Please make sure your PM settings will allow us to reply to you!)

kayla_la - Lead Moderator
Send PMs through LiveJournal - WARNING, may be slow to reply to PMs, very busy

celestinaketzia
Send PMs through LiveJournal -OR- celestinaketziaNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com

oceandezignz
Send PMs through LiveJournal -OR- xaidezignzNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com [PLEASE include ARTISTS BEWARE in any email title]


These are the only acceptable methods to contact A_B staff. Please do not DM us via the Twitter account; its only for updates and please respect our privacy and DO NOT attempt to search for our IM accounts on any services. Same goes for tumblr accounts or art sites.



[Q: Why can't I post to Artists_Beware? When I try, LJ tells me I cannot post here!]
Q: Why can't I post to Artists_Beware? When I try, LJ tells me I cannot post here!
A: At the top of every LJ community page is a black or grey nav bar that will tell you your membership status in a community, as well as give you shortcut links to doing various things within said community. You MUST be a member of Artists_Beware to be able to put a post into the queue, so if the nav bar is giving you a link to JOIN A_B, click it and follow the steps.
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And as a reminder, you do not need an LJ account to participate in A_B. You can use Twitter, Facebook, OpenID and Google+, thanks to LiveJournal's community integration feature.



[Q: I sent in a post to Artists_Beware, why isn't it showing up after I send it in!?]
Q: I sent in a post to Artists_Beware, why isn't it showing up after I send it in!?
A: We are a moderated community. All posts are reviewed to ensure that the report format, when used; is used correctly, screencaps are properly censored, that the beware is a valid one rather than a revenge piece, or in the case of an advice post, is not a repeat of something already covered in the past.

Approval can take anywhere from 3-10 days.



[Q: How do I know if my post got in or not?]
Q: How do I know if my post got in or not?
A: If your post was approved, there really isn't much in the way of a notifier unless you have chosen to track new entries posted to the comm, or you use the A_B twitter (@Artists_Beware) for when we add new entries to the comm.

If your post was rejected, you are going to get an email from lj_notify, with the title of "Moderated submission notification". This email will tell you that your post has been rejected, and the reasons why will ALWAYS be included, from a member of the moderation team. If you have very strict filters on your email accounts, please keep a look out for emails in your spam/trash folder from lj_notify as it is not uncommon for these emails to wind up there.



[Q: What do you mean by 'censor out all real names'?]
Q: What do you mean by "censor out all real names"?
A: If the person you are bewaring does not use their legal name on the web spaces where they do business, you cannot display it in screencaps or mention it in the body of your post. Even if their legal name is on their art page, Paypal account, or the signature of their emails, it still does not count towards a public online presence of their real name. Please censor these out.

7/1/2014 EDIT: Per kayla_la's mod post; all real names, Paypal and email addresses are required to be censored out. Exceptions are at the discretion of artists_beware staff only.



[Q: Where can I host screencaps for my beware?]
Q: Where can I host screencaps for my beware?
A: The moderators of A_B strongly recommend users join the service: Dropbox for their screencapping needs. You can upload images to their site and actually CHOOSE that the files being uploaded, are not resized into smaller unreadable files. You can so something similar with LJ's Scrapbook feature as well. We also recommend the photosharing site IMGUR.

We also quite strongly do not recommend using Photobucket, as they have sizing limits and often resize screencaps to be basically unreadable. We also do not suggest using art communities like FA/DA/IB/etc. to upload screencaps, as these sites generally do not allow for that in their TOS.

7/28/2016 EDIT Sites like ezimba where images are removed after after x-days are not acceptable host sources for A_B.



[Q: What is an LJ-cut?]
Q: What is an LJ-cut?
A: An LJ-cut is a piece of LiveJournal-based HTML coding that allows for a very wordy post to be condensed down to make web browsing easier for everyone, and to also be kind to those who do not desire a cluttered Friends List on LJ. This code is very easy to use, just like you would use a bold tag or an italics tag.

We have instructions on how to insert an LJ-cut into your posts in our Report Template, but here is the actual LJ FAQ article on them: LJ-cuts.



[Q: Why do you only tag the BAD artists? What about the GOOD ones?]
Q: Why do you only tag the BAD artists? What about the GOOD ones?
A: LiveJournal has a hard limit on tags, and as we are a community based on warning individuals of shady business people and their practices rather than good ones, we are saving our resources for those. We DO have monthly positive feedback posts though, feel free to browse through these, or use the LJ community artistrecommend to promote the good eggs of the art community.


as of 9/3/2014:
[Q: If I have a feeling I know the subject(s) of an advice post, can I ask the OP to PM me who they are talking about for verification?]
Q: If I have a feeling I know the subject(s) of an advice post, can I ask the OP to PM me who they are talking about for verification?"
A: The point of advice posts in Artists Beware is to ask for advice about the situation; no names attached for fairness and anonymity in the event the person(s) in question are in the right.

It is unfair to those people, and to the OP to put them in a spot if its not an official evidence backed beware so we please ask that you do not approach the OP of an advice post for the identity of the subject(s) in an advice post.">



[Q: Is Artists Beware a 'drama comm'?]
Q: Is Artists Beware a 'drama comm'?
A: Many people have varying opinions about this community, and unfortunately this is one of them. There are those who unfortunately think informing the buying and selling public of shady individuals of various levels of popularity is tattling/drama mongering.

The staff tries very hard to keep drama down, if not immediately out of the community by viewing entries before approving them, discouraging our members from going to artist or commissioner pages and making rude commentary, and cultivating a strong aura of professionalism for this site (positive reviews/discussion posts/etc).


Artists Beware is what you make of it, and we hope that you see it as a resource for who to buy from, who to avoid, and advice on how to make yourselves better business people/customers.



[Q: What if we found/know of [bewared artist]'s alternate account?]
Q: What if we found/know of [bewared person]'s alternate account?
A: This is fine, we encourage those who are aware of Artist's with excessive alts or secondary identities to come forward with them; but the thing is we need solid proof of admission that its their secondary identity.



as of 7/1/2014, per kayla_la's mod post:
[Q: I found an artist who traces/heavy references their art without credit! Can I post them here?]
Q: I found an artist who traces/heavy references their art without credit! Can I post them here?
A: Are you a client of theirs? Is your work from them traced or highly suspect after you've noticed a shady pattern in their work? Then the answer is yes, but approval is at staff's discretion.

If you are a watcher of this artist and/or you just came upon a suspect piece or pieces in their gallery; the community you report them to (on top of site staff of where you found the piece(s)) is art_theft.



as of 9/3/2014:[Q: [X] happened on the Artists Beware tumblr/DA/FB/FA/etc... why did you let that happen?!]
Q: [X] happened on the Artists Beware tumblr/DA/FB/FA/etc... why did you let that happen?!
A: This Artists Beware on LiveJournal is only on LiveJournal, mirrored on DreamWidth.We also have a Twitter to update people on new posts to the community.
We are not on any other bit of social media or art site what so ever. You submit posts to these sites at your own risk as we do not know the staff who run them, their trustworthiness and/or what they will do with your submitted contents.

Community Tags:

Before commenting, please read our Community Rules.
Do not go after persons posted about here, by leaving comments on their art pages.
If you have been posted about, please read I've Been Posted on Artists_Beware, Now What?

Comments

( 42 comments — Leave a comment )
timelapsedecay
Mar. 11th, 2013 09:00 pm (UTC)
In which oceandezignz reminds A_B followers of common sense.

But no I'm just kidding, was hoping a post like this could be made. The description lists most of this info but a post is easier to reference

Additionally I find the only people who actually think this is a drama comm are the artists posted here and their supporters.

Edited at 2013-03-11 09:03 pm (UTC)
teekchan
Mar. 15th, 2013 01:06 am (UTC)
I have no idea how to use LJ so I'm leaving it here. Due to a recent 'drama issue' that's popped up, the issue of copyright has popped up again. I think A_B should make a post on copyright and how it does indeed belong to the artists. A lot of commissioners think they own rights no matter if they were sold to them or not.
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sigilgoat
Nov. 3rd, 2013 11:01 pm (UTC)
Re: artist beware-
This is not an acceptable way to make a beware. You are free to submit a beware using our form. I am screening this comment.

Edited at 2013-11-03 11:02 pm (UTC)
dumarsi
Nov. 3rd, 2013 11:06 pm (UTC)
Re: artist beware-
ok, link to form, please?
sigilgoat
Nov. 3rd, 2013 11:19 pm (UTC)
Re: artist beware-
Over on the sidebar to the left there is a link marked "Artist Beware Report Template"

That's the template.
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oceandezignz
Jun. 25th, 2014 03:11 pm (UTC)
Re: LJ connect widgets
The answer was still in the LJ FAQ; they just changed the links recently I suppose.

http://www.livejournal.com/support/faq/283.html

Although if you already have an LJ account; one wouldn't need to use LJ's identity service feature.
anon232323
Sep. 4th, 2014 02:22 am (UTC)
An Admin approved Artist beware I posted on the Tumbler was deleted.
I made an Artist beware and it was immediately approved by the Admin. While not a scam it self still shady and bad behavior which puts the artist in question's trustworthiness in question.

Okay a while ago I had posted a compliment on an Artist's submission which the Artist threw a tantrum over. Me and an innocent bystander have both been the victims of an ongoing slander campaign this artist has launched against us.

In a nutshell this artist deleted our comments and has been lying about what our comments have originally said. Both of us now get harassing PM's claiming everything from us apparently being racists, to sexists.

These PM's are not coming from people who were able to see our comments but were told what the Artist claims what it was we said.

I thought since the nature of the Artist's behavior put her trustworthiness in question that it was valid. However the same beware that was admin approved got deleted without warning and now the Artist is retaliating for putting the artist beware post up.

Both me and the bystander merely want our names cleared and a former apology for the Artist's slander. If possible I'd like to talk to Artist beware staff to explain the story and see about the possibility of getting that post restored.
kayla_la
Sep. 4th, 2014 02:26 am (UTC)
Re: An Admin approved Artist beware I posted on the Tumbler was deleted.
I'm very confused by this comment. Do you mean you submitted a post to a tumblr that happened to have the same name? We do not have an official 'artist's beware' tumblr, thus we would not be able to help you in that case.
anon232323
Sep. 4th, 2014 02:34 am (UTC)
Re: An Admin approved Artist beware I posted on the Tumbler was deleted.
Oh the Tumbler is not associated with you? While would a slander campaign launched by an Artist be valid for an Artist beware on your site then?

The artist in question has been a nightmare to both me and the bystander. All over a compliment post and disagreement over what the Genre belonged under.

An minor argument over what Genre an piece belongs to while understandably a lil annoying does not justify a slander campaign.

To be punished for a compliment and abusing the ability to delete posts to add credibility to false stories. That is an prime example of being untrustworthy.

We don't want money or a refund or anything like that. Just our names cleared and apologies for the trouble.

If this case sounds up your alley please allow me to share it as a formal beware.

Edited at 2014-09-04 02:35 am (UTC)
kayla_la
Sep. 4th, 2014 02:37 am (UTC)
Re: An Admin approved Artist beware I posted on the Tumbler was deleted.
Correct, the tumblr is not associated with us in any way. I don't even know who runs it. If you have an issue with them, you'll have to contact them, I'm afraid.

I'm having a little difficulty understanding your problem, however, anyone is free to submit a post to AB, and if it is a valid post, it will be approved. If it isn't, it'll be rejected with the reasons why.
anon232323
Sep. 4th, 2014 02:45 am (UTC)
Re: An Admin approved Artist beware I posted on the Tumbler was deleted.
In a nutshell the problem.

Okay I posted a compliment on a work of art by an Artist. The site the work was uploaded to had recent policy changed about genres. Being part of one of the affected genre I merely stated. "Are you aware there have been policy changes to that Genre?" The Artist lashed out and another comment was made by the bystander. Essentially telling the artist to calm down. The Artist argued with me that the work was not of the Genre in question. And oddly I never accused it of being that Genre.

The Artist was simply upset I even implied it belonged under that Genre and refused to listen to me when I said. "Calm down. I already told you it's great just relax."

She deleted all of the comments on that piece left her replies to our comments up. So instead of being able to see what we really said it looks worse then it was since there's a bunch of blank spaces identifying our usernames and her arguing comments. She claims we were both making sexist remarks and being absolutely racist etc. Tons of slander. Every now and then when I log onto the site I find another artist I had favorited has me on their block list. My PM inbox on the site is full of death threats from people who heard the artist's version of the comments.

I never have actually commissioned the artist in question. I just wanna know if a problem like this even counts even though money never changed hands. I think anyone looking to have a commission done would rather see hear of this story first then find out the hard way after.
celestinaketzia
Sep. 4th, 2014 02:46 am (UTC)
Re: An Admin approved Artist beware I posted on the Tumbler was deleted.
I'm sorry, we cannot accept a post where no money has changed hands. A_B is only for reporting transactions that have gone wrong.

Edited at 2014-09-04 02:48 am (UTC)
anon232323
Sep. 4th, 2014 02:51 am (UTC)
Re: An Admin approved Artist beware I posted on the Tumbler was deleted.
I am sorry to hear that. I thought that as a warning site for shady and unethical behavior of artists and commissioner clients alike that such a problem would matter to. I do have evidence to support the story. Even took a screenshot of the artist in question saying and I quote. "I'll tell everyone what ever the *@$% I want about you!" She of course edited that part out right away.

While I understand such a policy is in place for reasons. I ask that you consider expanding to allow incidents like my story to be shared. I bid you all farewell.

Be careful which artists you compliment.
kayla_la
Sep. 4th, 2014 02:47 am (UTC)
Re: An Admin approved Artist beware I posted on the Tumbler was deleted.
I see. Yes, unfortunately, this isn't artists_beware material, as it's more of a personal dispute between you and the artist. Your best bet might be to contact a moderator/admin on the site this all occurred on. I wish you luck!
lyvlet
Nov. 9th, 2014 01:48 am (UTC)
I submitted a journal but need to edit it.
The situation changed just as I pressed submit, but I have no idea how to edit this now.
celestinaketzia
Nov. 9th, 2014 01:55 am (UTC)
Re: I submitted a journal but need to edit it.
Hello! Feel free to resubmit the post with your edit, and we can remove the duplicate from our queue. If you need a text copy of your post, I can PM it to you.
pastelpirate
May. 27th, 2015 03:54 pm (UTC)
I submitted a beware on an artist with screenshots that I had previously submitted to another beware site. After I submitted the beware for moderation, I realized that the artist's email address is visible in one or two of the screenshots. Do I resubmit the post now with the edits or wait until it's (presumably) rejected to resubmit it?

Also, the artist used an alias that wasn't her legal name in several of the screenshots. Do I also need to remove this?

My apologies for the confusion. ;o;
celestinaketzia
May. 27th, 2015 06:21 pm (UTC)
Hello, we will be reviewing your entry and rejecting it if necessary for censoring. Please keep an eye on your email registered with Livejournal as the rejection notice will have instructions for a resubmission!
qwells
Jul. 16th, 2015 07:19 pm (UTC)
Art-theft seems abandoned - where now to report a tracer?
Hey!

The subject says it all really. I have read your rules and understand that as no money has exchanged between myself and the tracer I cannot post to here, but the alt journal you suggest seemingly hasn't been updated in 10 years! (Crikey!)

Is your policy still the same regarding not allowing posts about a trace artist unless directly affected? And if so do you know who else to contact?

Thanks!
celestinaketzia
Jul. 16th, 2015 07:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Art-theft seems abandoned - where now to report a tracer?
Art_Theft is active, but unfortunately the main moderators have abandoned the site and haven't been letting new members in. Most of the content is member-locked.

Our policy is the same. We do not allow tracing posts that are by proxy, or where no money has exchanged hands.
Justin Coolidge
Oct. 27th, 2015 02:33 am (UTC)
NEVER got rejection email NOT ON community, NOT on Twitter
your Twitter account DOES NOT show my entry, I am UNABLE to see it here, and I DID NOT get a rejection email and it has been a good all day (9 hours), rejection letter happens after at most 3 hours!! Dafuq?! Did you even get it?? Did my low signal kill it (make it not go through)??
kayla_la
Oct. 27th, 2015 02:35 am (UTC)
Re: NEVER got rejection email NOT ON community, NOT on Twitter
I see a post by you still in the queue, which means we haven't gotten to yours yet.
celestinaketzia
Oct. 27th, 2015 10:16 am (UTC)
Re: NEVER got rejection email NOT ON community, NOT on Twitter
In addition to what Dani said, we are a volunteer team. It can take a few days to a couple of weeks in some extreme cases for us to line up.
leogarg
Mar. 8th, 2016 05:48 pm (UTC)
When do you actually make an entry?
I think that is the right place to ask.
I have the problem that I've waited now for commissions of two artists since 5 months. Artist 1 made a journal about a month ago how they're sorting stuff out and it should be coming. Artist 2 replied to an inquiry saying they'd get it done "mid march" (note that this was not the first time I've asked), so that is when I set my deadline for both of them. Nothing by then and I'll ask for my money back.
With neither was a "date of delivery" set, but with one of them, I made a similar one right before which was done in half a week.

Now, my question is.. Assuming that went well and I'd actually get my money back (or they actually do it by midmarch), should I be happy and shut up or should I still make an entry?
I mean, you don't make the entries to rebel against artists but to warn other commissioners and if I knew back then that it would take half a year, I would not have gotten them to be sure, so I don't really know what to do now in regards to AB.

(Neither of those artists has an entry yet so it's not like I can just put it in the comments. I actually checked AB back then because I was burned before)
celestinaketzia
Mar. 8th, 2016 07:30 pm (UTC)
Re: When do you actually make an entry?
Whether or not something is "bewareable" will have to be looked at by the moderation team. If you feel it's worth posting, feel free to send it to the queue. A separate entry per artist, if you feel inclined to do both. At worst we would tell you we didn't feel it was bad enough to be bewareable.

If you have set a definite deadline, let's see if they'll meet it.
crystal_minty
Apr. 30th, 2016 07:28 pm (UTC)
Question about real names
I want to post an entry about a scammer who's made 2 separate accounts to try and scam people, but the only thing linking the 2 accounts is their real name. It's publicly displayed on one account and for the other account, the PayPal name is the same. If I'm not allowed to post their real name, can I just censor the names but indicate that they're the same? (Or is that not acceptable since others can't see that they're the same name?)
kayla_la
Apr. 30th, 2016 07:29 pm (UTC)
Re: Question about real names
You will need to censor the real name (and the paypal emails), but if you like, you can PM one of the mods with your proof. We can leave a little note in the comments that we've seen the proof and it's legit.

Edited at 2016-04-30 07:29 pm (UTC)
crystal_minty
Apr. 30th, 2016 07:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Question about real names
Alright, thank you very much!
crystal_minty
May. 15th, 2016 09:04 pm (UTC)
Sorry, but another question! In the "Explain" section of the template, it says "no third parties". What exactly does this mean? (Am I not allowed to include a post written by someone else?)
celestinaketzia
May. 15th, 2016 09:06 pm (UTC)
Yes. We do not accept posts from people on behalf of someone. So if an artist runs out on your friend, you can't report the artist for your friend. Or if an artist has chronic problems producing, you can't report them unless you're in a transaction with the artist.
crystal_minty
May. 15th, 2016 09:13 pm (UTC)
Ah I see! What about if I included, as part of my proof, a post by someone else? As in, if they have a DeviantArt journal with proof about the same person I'm writing about; could I include this post in my explanation?
celestinaketzia
May. 15th, 2016 09:14 pm (UTC)
No. If they are having a problem with the person, then they will have to make their own post. Posts should be based solely on your singular transaction.
crystal_minty
May. 15th, 2016 09:20 pm (UTC)
Oh sorry, I should have clarified: my post includes proof of the person having multiple accounts. If part of this proof is in the form of someone else's journal, is that ok? (I'm not posting a beware for them, but just using their proof as further evidence)
celestinaketzia
May. 15th, 2016 09:23 pm (UTC)
Ah, we would have to see it. Unless someone can prove definitively that two people are the same user (same art in gallery, things like that) then someone just saying "yes those are totally the same person" without any proof to back it up may not be accepted.

Feel free to submit your post so we can review it properly.
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oceandezignz
May. 19th, 2016 05:03 am (UTC)
Re: How do I make a post? I'm new to LJ
This FAQ actually has a walkthrough in it to show you how to join this comm in order to post. Its at the very top with the images.

From there you want to use the Template to organize your text and evidence of the incident. http://community.livejournal.com/artists_beware/432731.html

There is more info in the template.

Once you hit the 'post to community' link its going to look like your average blogging layout. From there you put your info it and submit to our queue for review.

I'm going to be screening your comment as you've named the artist as a side-note but you yourself will still be able to see the comment please do not fiddle with it.
fr0stbit3works
May. 19th, 2016 06:04 am (UTC)
Re: How do I make a post? I'm new to LJ
That's fine,
will there be someone to review my submission and possibly fix any errors? Not super great at writing
oceandezignz
May. 19th, 2016 06:13 am (UTC)
Re: How do I make a post? I'm new to LJ
All posts made to the comm are reviewed by the Mod Team. We approve or reject based on what is given to us and if we reject we always give fixes and suggestions for those who are submitting.
rayesesshyfan
Aug. 6th, 2016 11:37 pm (UTC)
Does A-B allow bewares for companies that other artists should stay clear of?

I ask because I had to wrestle for this indie developer to give me credit on their Kickstarter until today and one of the founders (married couple) tried to pull this one on me: "Your work is now ours due to the contract" but I had a PR friend of mine tell me that they couldn't take credit for my work, which led to me getting the credit finally, along with the rest of the team down at the bottom.

Edited at 2016-08-06 11:37 pm (UTC)
celestinaketzia
Aug. 7th, 2016 02:35 am (UTC)
Sure if it was stipulated in your contract/ agreement that the work remains yours!

Edit: Or that it was obvious it wasn't a work for hire and they tried to pull a fast one.

Edited at 2016-08-07 02:35 am (UTC)
rayesesshyfan
Aug. 7th, 2016 08:28 am (UTC)
The contract states that all of my work is theirs, but it doesn't allow them to take credit for it, which they did try to do with me.

Would it still be allowed, even though they did put up credit? Sorry, should've been more detailed xD
celestinaketzia
Aug. 7th, 2016 10:09 am (UTC)
We can't make a judgment call on what would be bewareable or not unless you submit to the queue so we can properly review your post.

If you feel their behavior warrants a beware, then please submit it. We do have a tag for sites and organizations. The worst we can do is say no.
rayesesshyfan
Aug. 7th, 2016 11:22 am (UTC)
Okay will do it~
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