WHO: Derpychuian on FA, Fur-the-reanimator on Sofurry, Nikitak_Thief on Steam, Derpychu on tumblr. (I SUSPECT he went by other aliases before now, but I don't know what they are. He has now moved on to the brony community as well, so be aware.)
WHERE: Does business through Sofurry or e-mail. Changes his email frequently. Now in the brony fandom?
WHAT: stalking, fake suicide attempts, commissioning grudge artwork
WHEN: From winter 2011 to now
PROOF: Journal post from his first fake suicide, grudge artwork commissioned, (WARNING: rape/choking trigger, VERY NSFW), first paypal where he attempted to bribe me to speak to him, second paypal where he attempted to bribe me to speak to him, suicide threats sent to a third party, guilting a third party about how poor he is while simoltaniously spending 40$ on commissions.
EXPLAIN: tl;dr This person joined the MU* I moderate, and commissioned me for a few images. He began stalking me and made suicide threats as a means of "testing" my supposed friendship with him. After I cut off contact he escalated it to commissioning unsuspecting artists to draw rape pictures of my characters. I'm just asking folks not to take those commissions.
Around early 2011 this guy joined my MU*. A bunch of people were joining at the time, and I was the only active mod. This guy seemed rather clingy and depressed, but it's the internet and those sorts just happen. Nobody thought much of it for a while.
After a few months he started talking about how he had been 'unfairly' committed for suicide attempts in the past. He claimed that a neighbor looked in his window and saw him 'cleaning his teeth with a knife' and called the police. At this point I was getting a bit concerned about his behavior, but he hadn't broken any rules, so I didn't ban him.
He commissioned me a few times at this point, usually for pretty mild character art of his chuian (mouse alien) avatars. He paid via snail mail the first time, and Paypal the rest. I didn't save his snail mail address because I didn't think I'd need it. He always paid on time. His Paypal was derpy.chuian@gmail.com at one time, but deepy.chuian@gmail another. He may have changed his paypal account since then.
On Dec. 27th 2011 I logged in the MU* and found a cryptic note posted from him on one of the town boards. It was pretty clearly either a 'quitting forever' announcement or a suicide announcement. Since neither of those are things that contribute to a community, I took it down and junked it. I also didn't do much about it due to the vague nature at the time.
A few hours later, after I posted I was having a holiday l4d game with friends, he e-mailed me. This time it was an explicit suicide threat. I hurried to gather as much information as I could (his IP, the town he lived in) but since I didn't know him well and his paypal account was listed under "Derpy Chu", I did not have his real name. I tried to talk him down or at least keep him at the computer while contacting the local police department and getting them on the case. Obviously the l4d game got cancelled as I stayed on the phone with law enforcement for most of the night.
The next day he acted like nothing happened, and logged in like normal. Either the police had not come to his house or when they had, he hadn't been doing anything worthy of their attention. I am fairly sure that if you actually are threatening suicide, the police take you to the hospital. I can only guess that he answered the door calmly and seemed unbothered when they arrived. It became extremely clear from his followup behavior on the MU* that his real intention from the suicide scare was to "test" the "friendship" he perceived as having with me.
Keep in mind, I still don't know this guy well enough to know his REAL NAME.
When I realized that was what it was all about, I banned him from the MU* because I could see him beginning the same cycle with other players. I cautioned other players not to talk to him. I didn't go into details about why because I didn't want to stir drama. Most listened.
Derpy didn't seem to take a hint from the ban (I dunno now why I expected he would/could) and began to send me notes/comments on Furaffinity. I finally blocked him there, after responding to one with a pretty simple "do not contact me anymore."
I also blocked him via e-mail and Steam. After this, he sent me a donation via my webcomic tip jar with the note 'please talk to me :(' which I refunded and did not reply to. This account of his was under what may have been his real name but has been censored in the screencap at the request of the mods. (Screenshot)
A few months later, one of the MU* players who had continued to have contact with him outside the MU* messaged me on Steam. He was going through the fake suicide friendship test song and dance again, and they needed all of his personal information to contact the local police. I gave them what I had and cautioned them once again to stop talking to him. Once they called the police and he (again) seemed unbothered the day after, they cut ties with him as well. (screenshots one, two and three)
I got another tip jar donation some months later, from a different account of his, and a note that had some sort of passive aggressive tone like 'you may not deserve it, but i will always respect you, even if you hate me.' Again, I am a *MOD* on the MU* and an artist he commissioned. That is the extent of my relationship to this guy. Anyway, I refunded that payment as well. Since this was the second time he attempted to pay me to talk to him, I let him know bribery was not cool as well as informing him he was boardering on stalking. (screenshots one and two)
It was quiet for the last few months, and I assumed he'd finally got over it and gone his own way. He continued to use my aliens as his avatar character, which is also fine, and got some pretty g-rated commissions of them in the interim. Again, no problem with this on my end. He "quit the internet" two months ago, but based on what follows I've got to conclude he did not stay offline long.
Earlier this month I discovered his latest antics. He's commissioned actual rape art of characters that are mine. They're not just my aliens made into his OC, they're straight up my characters. (warning, VERY NSFW art under this link)
The artist who drew it removed any tags or links to my work at my request (proof), but these are the characters depicted in the NSFW art above. The male from this info page, the female is bottom row, center panel, left corner here.
In addition to the characters and person who commissioned it making this seem like a grudge piece, it's also a very well known fact on the MU* that I do not think rape is funny/okay in any capacity. This is something he would have known about me just from seeing me around and reading my journals. So the subject matter itself seems like a grudge-influenced choice. As I said before, he's commissioned other artwork in the past and it's always been very G-rated. This is kind of a huge leap in content.
Additionally, the artist he commissioned lists her prices for erotic work starting at 40$. At this same time, Derpy was telling people he could not afford to feed himself. (proof) Since the artist was obviously paid for her work, it is clear he was lying about his finances to "test" friendships again.
I have no problems with the artist who took the commission, it is 100% clear to me that she did not know it was a grudge piece or that the characters were being used without permission. This Beware is strictly about the commissioner, Derpy.
Anyway yeah, there's my story. Please be aware that if someone links you to references from either inhuman-comic.com or hekshano.com and is asking for violent sexual commissions, just...check with me first? I just want to make sure it's not him.
WHERE: Does business through Sofurry or e-mail. Changes his email frequently. Now in the brony fandom?
WHAT: stalking, fake suicide attempts, commissioning grudge artwork
WHEN: From winter 2011 to now
PROOF: Journal post from his first fake suicide, grudge artwork commissioned, (WARNING: rape/choking trigger, VERY NSFW), first paypal where he attempted to bribe me to speak to him, second paypal where he attempted to bribe me to speak to him, suicide threats sent to a third party, guilting a third party about how poor he is while simoltaniously spending 40$ on commissions.
EXPLAIN: tl;dr This person joined the MU* I moderate, and commissioned me for a few images. He began stalking me and made suicide threats as a means of "testing" my supposed friendship with him. After I cut off contact he escalated it to commissioning unsuspecting artists to draw rape pictures of my characters. I'm just asking folks not to take those commissions.
Around early 2011 this guy joined my MU*. A bunch of people were joining at the time, and I was the only active mod. This guy seemed rather clingy and depressed, but it's the internet and those sorts just happen. Nobody thought much of it for a while.
After a few months he started talking about how he had been 'unfairly' committed for suicide attempts in the past. He claimed that a neighbor looked in his window and saw him 'cleaning his teeth with a knife' and called the police. At this point I was getting a bit concerned about his behavior, but he hadn't broken any rules, so I didn't ban him.
He commissioned me a few times at this point, usually for pretty mild character art of his chuian (mouse alien) avatars. He paid via snail mail the first time, and Paypal the rest. I didn't save his snail mail address because I didn't think I'd need it. He always paid on time. His Paypal was derpy.chuian@gmail.com at one time, but deepy.chuian@gmail another. He may have changed his paypal account since then.
On Dec. 27th 2011 I logged in the MU* and found a cryptic note posted from him on one of the town boards. It was pretty clearly either a 'quitting forever' announcement or a suicide announcement. Since neither of those are things that contribute to a community, I took it down and junked it. I also didn't do much about it due to the vague nature at the time.
A few hours later, after I posted I was having a holiday l4d game with friends, he e-mailed me. This time it was an explicit suicide threat. I hurried to gather as much information as I could (his IP, the town he lived in) but since I didn't know him well and his paypal account was listed under "Derpy Chu", I did not have his real name. I tried to talk him down or at least keep him at the computer while contacting the local police department and getting them on the case. Obviously the l4d game got cancelled as I stayed on the phone with law enforcement for most of the night.
The next day he acted like nothing happened, and logged in like normal. Either the police had not come to his house or when they had, he hadn't been doing anything worthy of their attention. I am fairly sure that if you actually are threatening suicide, the police take you to the hospital. I can only guess that he answered the door calmly and seemed unbothered when they arrived. It became extremely clear from his followup behavior on the MU* that his real intention from the suicide scare was to "test" the "friendship" he perceived as having with me.
Keep in mind, I still don't know this guy well enough to know his REAL NAME.
When I realized that was what it was all about, I banned him from the MU* because I could see him beginning the same cycle with other players. I cautioned other players not to talk to him. I didn't go into details about why because I didn't want to stir drama. Most listened.
Derpy didn't seem to take a hint from the ban (I dunno now why I expected he would/could) and began to send me notes/comments on Furaffinity. I finally blocked him there, after responding to one with a pretty simple "do not contact me anymore."
I also blocked him via e-mail and Steam. After this, he sent me a donation via my webcomic tip jar with the note 'please talk to me :(' which I refunded and did not reply to. This account of his was under what may have been his real name but has been censored in the screencap at the request of the mods. (Screenshot)
A few months later, one of the MU* players who had continued to have contact with him outside the MU* messaged me on Steam. He was going through the fake suicide friendship test song and dance again, and they needed all of his personal information to contact the local police. I gave them what I had and cautioned them once again to stop talking to him. Once they called the police and he (again) seemed unbothered the day after, they cut ties with him as well. (screenshots one, two and three)
I got another tip jar donation some months later, from a different account of his, and a note that had some sort of passive aggressive tone like 'you may not deserve it, but i will always respect you, even if you hate me.' Again, I am a *MOD* on the MU* and an artist he commissioned. That is the extent of my relationship to this guy. Anyway, I refunded that payment as well. Since this was the second time he attempted to pay me to talk to him, I let him know bribery was not cool as well as informing him he was boardering on stalking. (screenshots one and two)
It was quiet for the last few months, and I assumed he'd finally got over it and gone his own way. He continued to use my aliens as his avatar character, which is also fine, and got some pretty g-rated commissions of them in the interim. Again, no problem with this on my end. He "quit the internet" two months ago, but based on what follows I've got to conclude he did not stay offline long.
Earlier this month I discovered his latest antics. He's commissioned actual rape art of characters that are mine. They're not just my aliens made into his OC, they're straight up my characters. (warning, VERY NSFW art under this link)
The artist who drew it removed any tags or links to my work at my request (proof), but these are the characters depicted in the NSFW art above. The male from this info page, the female is bottom row, center panel, left corner here.
In addition to the characters and person who commissioned it making this seem like a grudge piece, it's also a very well known fact on the MU* that I do not think rape is funny/okay in any capacity. This is something he would have known about me just from seeing me around and reading my journals. So the subject matter itself seems like a grudge-influenced choice. As I said before, he's commissioned other artwork in the past and it's always been very G-rated. This is kind of a huge leap in content.
Additionally, the artist he commissioned lists her prices for erotic work starting at 40$. At this same time, Derpy was telling people he could not afford to feed himself. (proof) Since the artist was obviously paid for her work, it is clear he was lying about his finances to "test" friendships again.
I have no problems with the artist who took the commission, it is 100% clear to me that she did not know it was a grudge piece or that the characters were being used without permission. This Beware is strictly about the commissioner, Derpy.
Anyway yeah, there's my story. Please be aware that if someone links you to references from either inhuman-comic.com or hekshano.com and is asking for violent sexual commissions, just...check with me first? I just want to make sure it's not him.
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1) we have an excellent police force in this town
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2) his pattern of behavior is to sort of announce his weird actions before going through with them for maximum attention. i'd get some warning if he ever did attempt to take stalking to the physical level
hopefully he isn't already doing the same song and dance with some random brony artist, though :|
Edited at 2013-01-02 05:40 am (UTC)
i mean, i have a comic and a MU*. sometimes grudge art happens every couple of years. that is something you just kinda get used to, as an admin of anything. but this is the first time anyone's PAID for such violent grudge art, which is...bizzare to me.
beware well-warranted
Edited at 2013-01-02 06:18 am (UTC)
Edited at 2013-01-02 05:34 am (UTC)
If you ever need anyone to talk to, or vent to, I'm all ears.
That's just downright cruel.
i mean there's angsty emo attention seeking behavior, and then there's 'stalk an artist you don't know and get rape art when they don't talk to you' behavior.
If I didn't think he'd just wriggle out of this account, he'd end up being my first block.
That rape commission is absolutely vile. I'm so sorry you had to deal with this guy being so creepy.
obviously if he gets a new account and sidles up to some unsuspecting artist with it and assures them OH NO ITS TOTALLY COOL I HAVE PERMISSION FOR THESE CHARACTERS TO GO IN THIS PIECE there's not much which can be done about it until it's too late. short of warning a large group all at once, which i'm hoping this post will do :B
I don't really understand that artist's actions either in leaving it up. I know you didn't ask her to remove it, but I'd be so horrified I'd take it right down.
This is why I won't use a third party's characters without their expressed permission, that's just disrespectful and wrong on all levels o.o
i have the very strong suspicion that he just outright lied to her and told her he had permission. that, or she's just new to commission work and didn't realize you should check...
at the end of the day, without the tags tying it to me, it's just another noncon fetish piece on the internet. only i (and now AB) and the commissioner know its intent or who it's of. and as long as nobody's knocking at my e-door going "MANNNNNNN THAT WAS SO HOT WHY ISNT YOUR COMIC FULL OF THAAAAT" i can deal.
i'd just rather not have the situation repeat, which is why i posted the AB.
It's too bad they wouldn't be willing to tone it down a little bit so the guy doesn't have his "revenge". :P Oh well.
This is a really scary, freaky situation. I sincerely hope you don't hear from him again, but expect this won't be the last of him.
and really i'm more concerned about it happening again than i am concerned about giving some new artist a hard time over something she had no idea she was doing.
though i'll be honest, times like this i kind of do wish we could afford a watchdog. nothing makes a creep think twice like the bark of a dog who weighs as much as they do.
How about a pitbull? Nothing scares them like a pitbull.
Plus they are such a sweet breed.
i've noticed lately that when someone is 'outed' as trouble in one group (say, the furry fandom) they tend to jump ship to MLP. just mentioning cause you have a pony icon, but have you noticed this at all?
do you think it's that since it's a new fandom, they feel no one will be aware of their history and they can 'start fresh'?