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3/12/10 12H32 EST UPDATE: Starfinder has contacted me saying that she will send it out by the end of the week (I'm guessing that means next week) because she's currently tied of up with finals. So, it looks like this situation is on it's way to being resolved. At least I hope so!

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Just thought I'd post something else about Starfinder. I just found this community an hour ago; boy I wish I had seen it long before then.

Basically, she owes me a print, and the hard copy of two small bust sketches (one was free, as a deal for buying a print, so I'm not going to complain about that). This is back in January. My last communication with her last in June, six months after payment. Note that this isn't even original art - it's a print. The bust sketch that I paid for she actually DID draw, she just had to send it to me. My last communication with her in June was as follows:


Hey there,

I was wondering if you ever got a chance to ship these out? I know you're extremely busy and have a lot going on, but it's been quite some time - according to my PayPal, I paid for the print on Janurary 19th, and the airplane sketch on Feb 28th. I'm just curious as to what happened to them.

Cheers,

Gizagiza

Her response:

Hey,

Still have everything, just going through some tough issues right now with my bank. I'm currently overdrawn due to their dishonest way of processing checks and other payments and they keep hitting me with fees to keep me in the negative. :/ For now I'm struggling with them and with my own commissions to get in the positive as I have no money to do anything, like buy gas for my car, pay my bills, etc, let alone shipping too. :/ Sorry for the delays, things have not been good with me since the foreclosure and it's sort of a daily struggle to make ends meet. I'm hoping to get in the positive and ship everyone's stuff out ASAP though.


I'm reluctant to message her again because I always get a guilt trip... and whats annoying is she has the wonderful tenancy to delete a majority of her journal entries. She's very difficult to track.

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fatkraken
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:44 pm (UTC)
You could send her a stamped self addressed envelope. It would only cost a couple of bucks, would NOT be cash money that she could spend elsewhere and if she then fails to send it she has NO financial excuse whatever. Obviously it would suck to be out another couple of dollars, but it seems like the best way to have a good chance of getting your stuff. You shouldn't HAVE to do it as it's not your fault, but for now pragmatism might be the best bet.
hellebore
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:45 pm (UTC)
I'd do this as well. Let's see what excuse she can come up with.
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banrai
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:47 pm (UTC)
You know, I know profanity isn't smiled upon in this community but... really now.

Screw her.*

Her financial screw ups aren't your problems. You don't go into a shop to buy soap or food and have to listen because their company is going bankrupt. You paid for your product, and if she doesn't deliver it's her error and not your place to have to listen to her bitch about it.

*edited to be more polite.
cesarin
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:49 pm (UTC)
she seems to be going the jesskit way; full force lately.. always blaming everyone but herself on her horrible financial management.
ashleyvsdestiny
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:48 pm (UTC)
"Still have everything, just going through some tough issues right now with my bank. I'm currently overdrawn due to their dishonest way of processing checks and other payments and they keep hitting me with fees to keep me in the negative."

$20 says the evil bank charged her a non-sufficent funds fee for bouncing checks. :P
2cuxi
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:51 pm (UTC)
I guess she never got the memo about bounces and overdraft!
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2cuxi
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:52 pm (UTC)
I...I think she's attempting to communicate with you, but all I hear is "Bawww Bawww Bawwww!"

Different client, Saaaaaaaaaame Starfinder. It pains me to think people like her are for real.

I agree. Send her the pre-stamped, self-addressed envelope. Sure, she'll probably whine about how she can't afford gas to drive to the post office, or how she can't walk there because both of her legs are broken from acute osteoAIDSumoniaphoma, but it's worth a try.
killercacti
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:55 pm (UTC)
acute osteoAIDSumoniaphoma is a bitch.
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gizagiza
Dec. 2nd, 2010 08:58 pm (UTC)
I actually sent her another note about the matter yesterday on FA yesterday. I've yet to hear from her, but this was just yesterday so we'll see.
hamburger
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:03 pm (UTC)
Could you possibly take screenshots of the FA correspondence? I know they've been asking for proof of her not finishing commissions.
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uozlulu
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:12 pm (UTC)
If you haven't already start screen-capping everything from this point forward. The more evidence you have, the more people can potentially maybe do something about her.

If you don't know how to screencap I can tell you :D
ph34rth3ll4m4
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:25 pm (UTC)
I love how it's "I'm currently overdrawn due to their dishonest way of processing checks and other payments and they keep hitting me with fees to keep me in the negative." Somehow I get the feeling "I'm currently overdrawn because I lack the responsibility and foresight to budget my spending and prepare for such mistakes and now have to catch up on fees before I can make a move." would be FAR more accurate. Just a hunch. Who knows, maybe it really is totally the bank's fault her money consistently disappears. Snerk.
ashleyvsdestiny
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:33 pm (UTC)
I can't even imagine how a bank would 'dishonestly process checks'. At worst they'd have put a hold on a check for some reason. But the teller TELLS YOU THAT when you cash it.
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oceandezignz
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:36 pm (UTC)
Who accepts checks anymore? If she's having issues with checks then maybe she ought to not accept them anymore. She uses PayPal doesn't she? How hard is it to just TRANSFER the money? But then again, this is me going on the assumption she's like a friend of mine and prefers to have PayPal send you a check instead.

Or hell what's stopping her from having a PayPal card?! If she just took PayPal only transactions, she could separate (and keep better track of) her commissions and print orders AND with the card, she has no fear that the evil bank will mess with her money.

Lastly, if her bank is so 'evil' why hasn't the woman changed banks? Gone to a credit union or whatever. SOMETHING.

But of course, she probably wouldn't do that. As its RESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR.

I don't like to wish illwill, but I hope she gets a very bad reality check very very soon.
kayla_la
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:46 pm (UTC)
I don't like to wish illwill, but I hope she gets a very bad reality check very very soon.

HEH, I see what you did there.
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riftryu
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:46 pm (UTC)
It's still the same Star versus the Universe, wow. Now I feel dumb for feeling sorry for her.

It's just a print. How hard it can be to go to a post office and mail it out?
silvertales
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:56 pm (UTC)
Ok, I admit to being very shiny new to this community, only found it a few days ago, and I don't know this Starfinder, but.... seriously. It's just mailing a print and a completed drawing... how HARD is that?!

And, again, it seriously should not take nearly a year to put something in the mail. They come to you and pick it up.

And her financial mismanagement (even if it is legit) is in no way YOUR problem. Considering she should have had this stuff mailed to you MONTHS ago, she needs to stop making excuses.
kayla_la
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:57 pm (UTC)
Try clicking on her tag and take a look at the posts about her. She's probably the most infamous artist in the entire comm.
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x_thor
Dec. 2nd, 2010 09:59 pm (UTC)
Ummm.. wow.. wtf. You are a paying customer, not a friend of hers, she has NO reason to start guilt tripping you about her 'woe is me' life. She can't afford gas.. What does that matter to her customers?


They don't need to know this. Sell the car and take the bus if you're that desperate for money... frig.. Sorry this is just rubbing my fur the wrong way. At least she can AFFORD to have a car.. And what is shipping? 5$??!! Can't afford it??! Really?!

Erf.. One of my biggest pet peeves is artists playing the guilt-trip game on their commissioners.

*Face palm*
marus_puppy
Dec. 2nd, 2010 10:55 pm (UTC)
I've thought the same thing. If I were in her position, I would start selling off things I don't need/use to make some extra cash instead of... I dunno, buying something more? Just a thought though. :)
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wereguitar
Dec. 2nd, 2010 10:08 pm (UTC)
All I can say is Good Luck!! I bought 2 already finished pieces of art from her back years ago and she blamed not mailing them out to me on her MOTHER not doing it for her. Yeah. I found out that the post office was only a street or so away from her house, too. Then she offered me a sketch of my character to make up for it.

After she stopped communicating with me I asked for a refund. I was yelled at for asking her about my prints "in public" (aka. her LJ & DevArt) and she went off about how her parents were filing for bankruptcy. Around this time she was given her VW car and spent $100 on silver to make pendants to sell online.

Luckily an AMAZING person from this community saw her at a Con and in person got my money back from Star and mailed it to me.

I NEVER heard a thing from Star since. No apologies. All guilt trips instead. So yeah, this will soon be going on A DECADE since my own incident with her.
growly
Dec. 2nd, 2010 11:34 pm (UTC)
A decade. Wow. Kind of puts it all in perspective. o__o
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kinas
Dec. 2nd, 2010 10:26 pm (UTC)
Just a quick question (I hope I don't come off as rude!) but why didn't you hit her up with a Paypal dispute at the beginning of all of this? All she had to do was print out a print and do a sketch. That doesn't take 45 days to do. :< (I think the time frame for a dispute is 45 days)
lilenth
Dec. 2nd, 2010 11:31 pm (UTC)

So what happened to the money you paid for shipping? Did it just go poof?

I honestly can't believe this artist's sheer well I dunno what to call it, it's indescribeable. It takes some stones to honestly whine to a client about how hard their life is, when my flatmate didn't get paid for his new job one time, I didn't go around whining to clients about it, I got the commissions out, sold a couple more pieces and some of my personal items to cover the huge whole in our finances.

I don't know what it is about the concept of personal responsibility that is so hard for Starfinder to comprehend? Nobody cares about hers or anyone else's financial holes, they just want their art/prints/whatever they've paid for, if an artist can't provide the paid for service then perhaps they shouldn't be selling their services.
westly_roanoke
Dec. 2nd, 2010 11:34 pm (UTC)
I don't know what it is about the concept of personal responsibility that is so hard for Starfinder to comprehend?

She's been raised to be entirely spoiled and entitled, so she thinks that everyone should bow to her whims like her parents and scraping fans do. When this doesn't work, she resorts to 'pity me, my issues are so much worse than anyone else's!!" When that doesn't work, she tries to ignore the problem until it goes away.
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duster
Dec. 3rd, 2010 12:26 am (UTC)
That's our Starfinder! -sitcom theme here-

No seriously. Everything she just sent you she's sent to someone else and just Mad Libs'd in another excuse about how poor she is and how she's a victim pity me pwease :( :( :(

She needs to leave the emotional baggage at home, put on her big girl panties, and DO THE WORK. Sadly she won't because she's nowhere near an honest artist who just fell behind. She's a scammer. End of story.
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keeperofdreams
Dec. 3rd, 2010 12:47 am (UTC)
I <3 your icon.
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nounbeast
Dec. 3rd, 2010 01:09 am (UTC)
These days, I can't help it; whenever I read something Starfinder says, I always hear a really dramatic violin playing in the background. I consider myself a creative person, but I cannot fathom coming up with a continual flow of excuses at the rapid-fire pace she apparently can.
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ellonwye
Dec. 3rd, 2010 03:57 am (UTC)
Starfinder, making excuses to customers that she's in a financial hole and oh god how could you be so insensitive as to ask her about something you paid for don't you know how hard it is for her right now, don't you understand she has to buy FOOD to EAT? This is a rare thing, I mean it really is.
likeshine
Dec. 3rd, 2010 06:24 am (UTC)

that's just ridiculous :(
alopex
Dec. 3rd, 2010 12:23 pm (UTC)
You know, she's a member of a lot of Wildlife art sites which you have to subscribe to in order to post work. They're not cheap either :-/
vantid
Dec. 3rd, 2010 01:48 pm (UTC)
I cannot fathom how she can afford these sites, which I KNOW cost the $$$ cause I have been interested in joining, and getting ads in these magazines, which is upwards of four digits in cost again because I have looked into it, but cannot afford a priority mail envelope.
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starinthegutter
Dec. 3rd, 2010 04:43 pm (UTC)
Oh man. I remember Cristina Penescu when she first joined Yerf- most of her art was traced or just really really bad. She got better eventually art wise, but it seems she traded talent for accountability. I think it's bogus that she didn't just send the print and sketches upon payment, especially with them *completed*... what the hell?

With her terrible track record and the fact that she has like, a kajillion people speaking against her, I'm surprised she still receives commissioners/purchases. I agree with the first response- send her self addressed stamped envelope. She can't worm her way out of that one.
gizagiza
Dec. 3rd, 2010 04:50 pm (UTC)
Hey wow, I remember you :D You're talented!
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mr_cullen
Dec. 3rd, 2010 05:05 pm (UTC)
Starfinder is truly an enigma 8C
kayla_la
Dec. 3rd, 2010 07:42 pm (UTC)
For the record guys, we don't want anyone going and trying to get her fired from her 'real' job through AB. If we catch you doing such a thing, you will be permabanned so hard that you'll only have access to anti-internet. Got it?
kayla_la
Dec. 3rd, 2010 07:49 pm (UTC)
And to add, because I know you'll read this, Starfinder: these kinds of things wouldn't happen and you wouldn't have people willing to do this to you if you would just stop scamming people. That is by far the quickest solution to all your problems here. We certainly don't encourage it, but this wouldn't be happening if you were responsible with your customers. You're to blame, too, no matter what your mindless fans tell you, and how strong your sense of denial is. You've dug this hole for yourself and only you can dig yourself out of it again.
snobahr
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:16 am (UTC)
Just a thought out of the blue...
Star's artwork is freakin' gorgeous. Has it ever occured to her to use one of the t-shirt shops like MySoti to make prints/shirts/etc., so that all she needs to do is upload the file and let them do all the printing/packaging/mailing-out...? All she does is collect some cash...?
digivolution
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:34 am (UTC)
Re: Just a thought out of the blue...
that would probably be too difficult for her 8| then she couldn't make any excuses as to why nothing is sent out!!!
peas_n_rice
Dec. 6th, 2010 06:40 am (UTC)
"I'm currently overdrawn due to their dishonest way of processing checks and other payments and they keep hitting me with fees to keep me in the negative."

This is apparently something she has had a problem with for years, because I've seen this excuse so many times. :|
werewolfofwater
Dec. 31st, 2010 12:28 am (UTC)
How much you wanna bet that's not actually true and it's probably just her own fault.
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