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[sticky post] How to handle being posted to AB

You've Been Posted to Artists Beware... Now What?

Artists Beware can be a powerful place. With thousands of members and readers, that is a lot of people who will see your name. It is completely understandable the stress, frustration, anger, worry, and anxiety having a beware posted about yourself may bring.

However, many times it is not the actual post on its own that will ruin a reputation. Instead, it is how the artist or commissioner reacts to it. This post is here to help you figure out what to do if you end up here, and sincerely want to smooth over your newly ruffled reputation.

  • First thing's first... DON'T PANIC. The absolute WORST thing you can do is respond while you're emotional. Get a hold of yourself, walk away and calm down before coming back to defend yourself.

  • If the beware is a result of genuine wrong-doing (even if accidental on your part), don't make excuses, or try to guilt trip the OP with your problems. People will see right through it and it will definitely lower their opinion of you. It makes you sound insincere in wanting to fix things when you come off as if you are looking for sympathy or to get out of your responsibilities instead.

  • Be respectful and polite, it will go a long, long way. Many times, people earn business if they handle a problem gracefully and with tact. In turn, the opposite reaction will net you the opposite result, and you don't want that.

  • Do not ask/demand/blackmail/hint for the OP to delete the post! I can't stress this enough. It makes you look shady, and people WILL take note of it. If things are resolved, we have a 'resolved' tag specifically for that, and the OP can update their post to reflect the resolution. Deleting the post is unnecessary and contradictory to the purpose of AB as a whole, as well as disrespectful to the userbase. Do not do this. It will most likely end in getting both you and the OP banned, and the post will merely be reposted anyway.

  • DO NOT send your friends/SO/whoever to fight your battles for you! This is one of the worst things you can do. You WILL be judged to an extent by the company you keep, and if someone you know comes in frothing at the mouth in defense of you, cursing and raging at the members, it will be theirs AND your reputation that will suffer for it. Try to avoid 'whiteknights', and understand that you yourself coming in and being respectful and honest with an explanation, apology, and resolution will do far more for you than your friends ever could.

  • Ultimately, your goal should be fixing the problem and earning that Resolved tag. After all, if you messed up, why wouldn't you want to try to make everybody happy by fixing the issue? Keep that in mind at all times when you are replying.

  • When defending yourself against genuinely untrue claims, do what you can to show proof as politely and calmly as possible. If the OP is downright lying or omitting information, and you can prove it, AB members will react appropriately and moderator action may be taken against the offending OP.

  • Understand that AB isn't a group of dramallama meanie jerkfaces who want nothing more than to see you suffer. The members of AB work with the information they're given at the time, and they will be honest, even if it's not something you want to hear. But if you've made a mistake and are genuinely apologetic, you will be surprised how helpful and sympathetic the members will be. Treat them with respect, and they'll do the same for you.

  • Never pull the 'I have a life' excuse. Everybody has a life. Rarely is anyone's life so busy that they can not do what ended up getting them posted here, and if it is, you shouldn't be taking commissions/getting commissions/whatever to begin with. If something does come up, update them personally! Don't leave them in the dark or expect them to search for information. Fulfilling the agreements you make, whether you are a customer or an artist, should be an important part of your life and sense of character. If it isn't, well, that's probably why you're on AB.



    Okay. Just keep this in mind, then. Don't freak out, be respectful when replying, don't send your friends or SO to whiteknight for you and don't demand the OP take down the post. If you genuinely want to fix things, behave like it, and you'll be fine!

    If I missed anything or anyone has anything to add, feel free to do so!
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    ADVICE NEEDED

    Hello there, this is my second time posting here, this time looking for advice.

    I had a character up for trade a while ago, and an artist (who I used to call my friend) offered 4 pieces of art for it.
    Afer a long wait, they finish the 1st piece, so I gave them the details about the 3 remaining pictures.
    A long time passed, and instead of completing their part of the trade, they keep doing, commissions, personal art, gifts and freebies.

    They draw a lot and very fast, so if they haven't completed them yet is because they don't want to work on it.
    Now is very irritating to see how they just keep procastinating in the trade, to the point I no longer want their art.

    What should I do? They already completed 1 of the 4 owed pieces of art, so I don't know what to say or do.

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    Commissioner Beware: Speed74

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    Artist Beware - Squidribs

    Subject: Artist Beware - Squidribs
    Current Mood: sleepy
    Picture Keyword: pic#125110774
    Picture Keyword: pic#125110774
    Text: WHO: Iprie/Squidribs
    Where: http://iprie.deviantart.com/
    https://twitter.com/squid_ribs/with_replies
    http://www.furaffinity.net/user/squidribs/
    http://toyhou.se/SquidRibs

    What:
    Late Nov 2013/Early Dec 2013 - Waist-Up and Chibi Commissions

    Proof: http://imgur.com/Z5E0zhL
    http://imgur.com/bc5viHX

    Explain: In November 2013, Iprie hosted an adopt auction with tiers for extra art if the bids went high enough. I won the bid at $42 and paid an extra amount to get the second tier, thus ensuring I got both waist-up and chibi artworks. Payment was sent (http://imgur.com/EjveVMH ) and I gave information on the characters I wished to be drawn. Months passed by and in April 2014, I decided to get in contact with Iprie again to check on the status of my commissions.
    http://imgur.com/8A2CH1a They apologized for the delay and some more months passed by before I contacted them once more. http://imgur.com/B93R1ZY There was no reply so I bumped again a month after. http://imgur.com/BFUIv5A They had remained fairly active in this time span with personal artwork and favorites, along with buying commissions.

    As 2015 came by, I was growing very concerned with the lack of communication and response from Iprie. I noticed that others were concerned as well. Growing further worried from this finding, I eventually confronted Iprie, now known as Squidribs, in March 2015 via Twitter and email. The artist responded and apologized. http://imgur.com/vnv5jYd They promised to refund me and finish the art. The refund was received, and wips were sent along. Unfortunately, there was no further contact from either of us. As possibly noticed from my previous bewares, I went silent in the past during this time period due to dealing with improving my health situation. That is my fault. The artist however, did not contact me again, and also did not respond to my note that I sent in January 2016. http://imgur.com/F3tsTQL

    There was no reply, so I had sort of given up, when to my surprise, I found Squidribs actively posting on Toyhouse in May 2016. I reached out to them, and they again apologized for the lack of communication and art, explaining they had a downward spiral in their health and promised to try and finish the artwork this time. http://imgur.com/yX3I6Gp Toyhouse was agreed to be the place where we would contact one another, so I bumped up the note and asked for updates in June with no reply. Due to that, I bumped again in early July and received an apology for the delay in receiving artwork. http://imgur.com/cliUWku http://imgur.com/c4yrdiN
    Three months passed by and I got in contact with Squidribs again to check on the art and engage in some unrelated chitchat. http://imgur.com/03Y8GHI The note was read, but there was no reply. I sent another bump afterward, and that one was unread and not replied to as well. http://imgur.com/HtudeHu

    [Read More]

    During this time, the artist was very active on Twitter, and remains so. I have tried to reach out to them on the platform as well during August and September. http://imgur.com/K1zQyJa http://imgur.com/AvRVqsc At one point, I was tweeting to Squidribs while they were actively tweeting on Twitter, and yet they did not reply to me. Squidribs was also quite active on Toyhouse during this time period, inquiring after people's adopts and showing up in threads. http://imgur.com/LttWJAB http://imgur.com/GmHP8Rt http://imgur.com/VDtFvpA Squidribs was also designing various characters and seemingly considering doing gift art for some people. http://imgur.com/7mrx7zL The artist did not get in contact with me however, and at this point, realizing that they did not intend to finish their work, I posted an informative PSA to the community. It was to make aware of this particular artist's services concerning owed work. Afterward, I tried to note them again and received a response. http://imgur.com/tXcf82H They apologized once more for leaving owed work uncompleted and promised to keep in touch. As can be seen in the link, this went well for a couple weeks, with me checking in every nine or so days and receiving a small wip of the chibi. At one point, I was even noted by the artist to inform me they were suffering from the flu. This initiative was promising.

    Unfortunately, it has been several weeks now, and while they have been active on Twitter and log into Toyhouse, they have not been in contact with me. I have sent them a note about a week or so ago, and it remains unread still. As such, I feel this warrants a beware, as it appears that Squidribs does not intend to complete owed work and will continue avoiding and running away from their responsibilities.



    To Summarize:
    -Commissioned artist for waist-up and chibi in Nov/Dec 2013
    -Communication was highly sparse, and entirely initiated by me except in one case, with artist often apologizing for lack of updates through long stretches of time
    -Confronted via email and gained brief contact, but lost it again, which was both our fault
    -Regained contact on Toyhouse but eventually lost communication again due to what appeared to be avoidance from the artist
    -Wrote a PSA for the community to inform people and confronted the artist again, receiving yet another apologetic reply
    -After the promising contact, I am seemingly being avoided again, which has led me to realize that Squidribs will not be completing the artwork and is providing empty promises.

    Thank you for your time, everyone.

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    BEWARE: xbeansrepublicx

    WHO: xbeansrepublicx, Bean, king beano beano, _Selshocktattoo_, beanscraftsforever

    WHERE: https://www.instagram.com/xbeansrepublicx/

    WHAT: 1 Full colour single character commission

    WHEN: Commissioned artist on Sept 20th 2016. After a lot of back and forth, asked for a refund on Dec. 7th 2016. Opened a Paypal Claim Dec 22 2016. Refunded by Paypal on Jan 2 2017.


    PROOF:
    WARNING FOR CRUDE LANGUAGE BY ARTIST
    Read more...Collapse )

    EXPLAIN: Mostly covered in the "proof" section. I commissioned Beano, they started the piece, but never showed me the finished version. I asked for a scan and tracking number, they didn't provide either. They said they received the packages back to their address damaged. I asked for photos and they did not provide them. I never saw the commission completed. I asked for a refund, they agreed but did not issue it. I had to open a dispute with paypal in order to get my money back.
    It's concerning because Instagram is so easy to switch usernames and dodge customers. They don't appear to use any other site so it would be easy to change their handle, but there's nothing I can do but post about this one. :/
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    Monthly Positive Reviews - January

    Welcome to 2017!

    If you've had a great commission experience, either as an artist or a customer, please comment here and spread the word. It doesn't have to be a full-on story, though you're welcome to type one! All we need are a few lines on why this person was so great to work with. You can also recommend companies, such as printers or fursuit-making teams, as long as it's relevant!

    There are plenty of reasons to post someone here: perhaps they went above and beyond the call of duty to fix a problem, or were so prompt with communication and payment it was like having them right next to you, or were very professional and courteous every time you contacted them.

    To help keep things organized, please follow this simple form:

    1. Name of the person you recommend:
    2. Link to person's website or art page:
    3. Approximate time period of when you did business with this person:
    4. Details
    (Here's where you tell us why they are so awesome! What made the transaction go so well? Perhaps link to the art or suit you bought/sold if you feel like sharing. Please mark NSFW if the subject matter is adult!!):

    If you have multiple people to recommend, please put them in separate comments to keep things organized.

    Trades are just as welcome as paid transactions. But try not to post for friends (or yourself) who are looking to be commissioned. If customers are what they/you seek, teenycom, artsales or artcommissions is for them!

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    New account: Rattalons
    Unread note
    Proof of being the same person: 1 2

    So on the 20th of this month I had not heard anything back from her and neither DA or two FA accounts had been active for just over two weeks so I didn't decided to message her on FA. Shortly after sending said note I decided to try searching for her else where and by search I mean go through the first two google pages. To my surprise she wasn't hard to find at all. But I did find her under a different name of DA though. The link to the same stream page on both the 0cean FA account and the new Rattalons DA account confirm it to be her. After going through the account I discovered she had been active there for the whole while her other accounts were dead. In fact she was online an hour before I found said account. I've seen she has done an art trade and a free sketch stream as well as personal art.

    I wanted to wait a while and see it she would respond to my note of FA just to be nice and give her a chance. Well the note still has not been read and the old accounts have not been active in almost 4 weeks now. I may try messaging her new account, but at this point I feel like this may have been an attempt to run and may happened if I confront her about it again. So yeah...guess those last three pictures are never going to be done.

    Edit 12/29/16: So I need to clear up a lot because apparently there was a huge misunderstand of what was happening. So firstly no this wasn't her trying to run off or anything. She had just migrated to DA more it seems. Although an update on her FA page would have helped, but that's all I can really fault her on. I recent the third piece of art today and was told the last two are all most finished and should get to me today or tomorrow.

    I feel as though I jumped the gun when posting the original beware about her. I've been scammed before by an artist who did the similar things as this and I guess I only got paranoid that it would happened again. 0cean is a nice artist and since I can't delete my beware here I'll seems have to update it and let everyone know that I was wrong about the whole situation.
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    ADVICE: "Inquiry by PayPal" Claim

    Hello all. You may remember me from past PayPal claims such as this one, where I had to call PayPal constantly from May to September for theft. I'm back again with another thrilling PayPal saga to boggle over because I do not believe 2016 wants to leave me feeling fine.

    About three weeks ago I finished a fursuit, posted it for auction and within an hour someone autobought it. I've had this happen a handful of times so I was very excited, except my heart dropped when I saw that the person who was buying it was also bidding on a few other auctions. I sent them an e-mail and they quickly responded, they were in fact a real person, and promptly paid for their item. I mailed the partial out the next day and they received it, very happy with the result.

    Fast forward to today, the day before Christmas Eve. At 3PM my PayPal balance was $0.00. At 11PM it was -$902.84.

    A claim was placed on my account and, unlike any other claim I have ever seen before, the reason for it was "Inquiry by PayPal". I thought this was something my client had placed and sent them a serious e-mail. After a brief exchange (me more confused and them relaxed) it turns out that they didn't issue it and that PayPal did it.
    Except... Did PayPal issue it? I asked my client and they paid with their card through PayPal. The payment was processed instantly when I received it earlier in December. It went without being questioned for nine days.

    I gave PayPal a call, a very rude representative told me to call back tomorrow because "I don't know anything about that and you're asking the wrong person." So apparently their own representatives in the resolution center do not understand what's going on.

    At this point I'm completely lost. This is a very large sum of money and I cannot afford to just lose it and have my client keep the fursuit while PayPal shrugs it off. I replied to the claim with a tracking number, supposedly my client is unable to do anything from their end. I asked them nicely to call their bank and see if they're reading the transactions as fraud activity.

    Has anyone else ever gotten this or know what I should do? I'm not around this weekend due to the holidays. Google search showed some people had it resolved in 24 hours, some had it open for weeks. The buyer is not a minor and did in fact purchase it with their own card. The account I'm using has been active since 2001 so it's not anything on my end.

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    Things People Say To Artists...

    And commissioners as well...

    I hope this is allowed....
    I am trying to compile a list of things people have said to artists and commissioners that have a negative view/stance on various subjects surrounding art. Mediums, pricing, marketing, art itself, methods, etc.  Anything and everything, even if it seems minor. What arguments have you seen out there?
    Please number/point if you have more than one to share.


    Examples of what I'm looking for:
    -Digital is worth more than traditional.
    -Art isn't a real job. (Everyone knows this one)
    -Digital art is cheating.
    -Patreon is a scam/paywall.


    Variations on the same thing and details are welcome because sometimes it can add another dynamic to the opinion that must also be tackled.

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    Artist Beware- Wormskin

    WHO: Wormskin On Furaffinity
    WHAT: Commission Type Was Half Body Digital Art
    WHEN: May 1st, 2016 - Present day
    EXPLAIN: It started off when I saw his artwork on the front page of FA, I loved their art style and wanted to get a commission from them. after contacting the artist and explaining to them what I wanted (look at the above screenshots) they sent me an email and I paid for it. 7 months later and I haven't heard from this person, I even sent them a note asking about the art but it was never opened.

    https://i.gyazo.com/fe3dfcf3df83946ff0046e5946000ca4.png
    https://i.gyazo.com/caf3d8457586c0ba030c72ea8908210c.png
    https://i.gyazo.com/3d0c608b7a7fbcf142e88b8382a2018e.png

    I really don't know what to do at this point, I'm out of $41and the artist has seemed to just drop off the face of the earth. if ANYONE has any info on this person please note me on FA.

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