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WHO: purqleguy

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/purqleguy

WHAT: Fursuit head, one time payment.

WHEN: April of 2016 was when I bought the head, the deadline was supposed to be July 2016. At the time of writing this (3/24/17) it has been almost a full year past the deadline, and he will not respond to my emails asking about the tracking number of the package he told me he shipped (he said he shipped it a month ago.)

PROOF: Emails: http://imgur.com/a/txDnh Paypal transaction: http://imgur.com/x5G4jo5 I don't remember why I sent it in two parts, but it was sent on the same day as you can see.

EXPLAIN: Long story so I put it under the cut
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Text: WHO: Sif.

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sif/

WHAT: Adoptable + referencesheet.

WHEN: 03-05-2017 and ongoing.

PROOF: Linked below.

EXPLAIN: On March 5th Sif had uploaded an adoptable of this beautiful dragon girl. The adopt was just a fullbody front view but also had three headshots sketched out and a fullbody view of her back. As shown here. (NSFW) https://www.dropbox.com/s/o9424fkp1nx9z04/1488700798.sif_dragon_girl_adopt.png?dl=0 The Auction said that she would come as is unless Autobought and you could unlock the referencesheet. (I sadly do not have the original image and description saved as she has since not only updated the reference but also edited the description) The Autobuy for the adopt orginally 450 when she first posted but she later dropped it to 400. I bidded on the first day and had a slight bidding war with someone on the next day. After checking her previous adoptable auctions I saw that they usually were autobought and grew nervous as I really wanted her. I didn't have the payment outright so I noted Sif asking if I could put a downpayment of my current bid (170) and send her the rest when I ha
d the payment. She agreed and I sent her my down payment and went on my way. https://gyazo.com/cc786b92ed81990a23c749993a01a95b https://gyazo.com/c61f2f7c07e7c51513860b7d61a2acbc (I didn't screenshot her reply because it's her paypal with a 'Thanks for the help' and I had afterwards sent her a note saying just 'paid' but I can get screenshots if requested.)

On the 13th I sent her a note telling her I had her payment but that I was wondering if I could pay extra to get an additional view of her bent over to show her bits and also asked her about adding a few markings on the parts that weren't drawn yet (like chosing the colour of her tongue and asking if she could have a heart shaped butt marking), She that was fine and that it would be 270 (instead of the 230) I paid and also asked if she could add my personal watermark because of my paranoia of art theft and she said she could as she hates art theft as well. https://gyazo.com/8f980f0d8f4ad9e4f9dd24c2ee92d8fe https://gyazo.com/67215571a8b4888d57cd8d0c920f84bf

On the 15th she has sent me the files and to my surprise it didn't include the full body backview and she didn't colour the tongue the colour I asked. I decided to let the tongue thing slide as it looked fine as is but I messaged her telling her that I was upset about her not having her backview and asked her if she could include it and just take the bent over view off the reference and have it as a 'seperate piece.' She replied telling me that she would but she didn't want to put it seperate and would just do the back view seperate because 'it wouldn't look right' being on there. I asked her why she thought that as I believed it would look better next to it as she had originally advertised.
Image: (NSFW) https://gyazo.com/99c6b3f540b1de92f3ff333cb9c6c1be
Messages: https://gyazo.com/690135c23bddc71482af16a4c303f704

She replied to me telling me "i put too much work on to this picture its not a commission, its an adopt. I will shrink down the back view ." and that she would just refund me 70$. I was upset because not only was I astonished that she responded like that but that she wouldn't have a proper view of her back markings. I told her that I was upset that she responded that way and that I loved her art but I would be writing a beware. She responded seeming upset saying ":C i can draw ya a color sketch of the back view, it will look horrible and not in harmony if i added the back view e.e i was trying to keep it in balance with the ref sheet" and then shortly after sent me a seperate note saying "or i can just add the back view extra... let me do that now" https://gyazo.com/c5af9a3481d9c05e7e2fded9a1e5ec75 https://gyazo.com/62112547ca379ab68a854bc25354aa3e https://gyazo.com/b566322c19009636ca65572e380e76ed

I waited and she responded with the updated piece with the backview. I viewed it from my phone and saw that it was purely just a shot from shoulders to hips but I thought it would be better than nothing and told her it looked lovely. I went back to my pc to save it and saw that it looked extremely sloppy and that was missing a marking on the back of her legs that showed in the bent over view. I noted her about it then looked it over again to notice that the rest of the markings on her hips didn't match either. I messaged her trying to be civil and offered her 40 bucks of the 70 to clean it up and do the markings right as I just wanted it to look right. While I was typing my third note out she replied telling me that "This will be the last attempt. Please refresh..."
Back view: (Slightly NSFW) https://gyazo.com/b7770f3655b518d9fce15c7e8eb5109e
Messages: https://gyazo.com/737a5ac41823d19f85b4c674a41a4fbf https://gyazo.com/61a29f3ccabac28b68cde4c04276ff66

She read my note shortly after I sent it but after a week she hasn't responded and continues to take on more work. I really love this girl and don't want a refund for her. I'm just wanting her to do what I paid her for, or at least the quality since she has given me a partial refund. If she would do the entire view I would send her the partial payment back but currently I'm just very astounded by her behavior as I've worked with her before and never had any issues.

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Updates!

You all may have noticed some locked posts hitting your feed today. This is because we have revamped the profile page as well as all of our general mod posts, such as the FAQ, the report template, and our 'what to do if you're posted here' post.

Many of our posts became cluttered over the years as rules were added, tweaked, and new things came up in the community that needed to be addressed. The result was a bit of a confusing hot mess, and we're hoping that things are now easier to find, read, and understand! Much was removed and simplified, so every article should be much more sleek and concise.

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WHO: List the aliases or business name of the person (Artist or Customer) this post is regarding. Censor all legal names, emails, paypal emails, addresses, or phone numbers.

WHERE: URL where they base their business out of. In case your beware is regarding something that occurred at an event (example: a con), you may list that too.

WHAT: Was it traditional art, digital art, sculpture, fursuit, jewelry, etc.?

WHEN: A rough time line of the situation from initial conversation, to 1st payment (or agreement of trade) to signs of trouble.

EXPLAIN: Tell your side here. What happened, what went wrong, where did it go wrong, have you attempted to fix the issue(s), ask for updates, refunds/legal warnings, etc. Post any additional screencaps here that correspond with your explanation. Be as clear, concise, and to the point (no additional drama, try not to ramble, no third parties/proxy writing) as possible.

PROOF: Feel free to place your screencaptures here, including albums, but please note the above about including them alongside claims in the EXPLAIN section, so as to make it easier to follow. Make sure you censor out unrelated third parties in your caps!

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Artist's Beware FAQ

[Q: What kind of identifying/sensitive information may I include in my post?]
Q: What kind of identifying/sensitive information may I include in my post?

A: As a general rule, sensitive information such as legal names, addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, paypal addresses, etc may not be included in your beware and must be either cropped out or censored. We may make exceptions on a case by case basis for instances where transactions only occurred via mediums such as Facebook.


[Q: Do you have a template for posting?]
Q: Do you have a template for posting?

A: Yes! You can find our template here: http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/948608.html
Note that using the template isn't a requirement to post, as long as you include all the relevant information, but it does make things easier.


[Q: How do I post to Artists_Beware? When I try, LJ tells me I cannot post here!]
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A: At the top of every LJ community page is a navigation bar that will tell you your membership status in a community, as well as give you shortcut links to doing various things within said community. You MUST be a member of Artists_Beware to be able to put a post into the queue, so if the nav bar is giving you a link to JOIN A_B, click it and follow the steps.


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[Q: What is an LJ-cut?]
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[Q: What do I do if I want to give positive feedback about a transaction?]
Q: What do I do if I want to give positive feedback about a transaction?

A: We have monthly positive review posts! Go here and make sure you use the current month's post to leave your review!


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Q: If I want to know the name of a subject from an advice post, may I ask?

A: No. Advice posts are to remain anonymous, as they are not reviewed and vetted with the same scrutiny beware posts are. Do not ask, reveal, or hint at the identity of someone being posted about in an advice post.


[Q: What if I found/know of [bewared person]s alternate account?]
Q: What if I found/know of [bewared person]s alternate account?

A: You may share this information in the relevant post for that person, provided you can provide solid proof that they are the same person. "I think they're the same", "Their art looks similar", "I heard from a friend, "Their writing style is similar" and other 'probably's and 'maybes' are not considered solid proof.


[Q: Can I submit a general warning/post on behalf of someone else?]
Q: Can I submit a general warning/post on behalf of someone else?

A: No. We are a transaction-based community for individual experiences, and you are not allowed to make either 'general scam warning' posts or post for somebody else. Individuals may only post about their own experiences.


[Q: Why do I need to censor the names of third parties in my bewares?]
Q: Why do I need to censor the names of third parties in my bewares?

A: As a general rule, if someone is unrelated to the case at hand, we would rather respect their privacy and not have them included in a post without their consent.


[Q: Is there an easy list for the main tags to browse?]
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Beware: Dao

WHO: Dao on IMVU/DauxyCheeks on FA/Xashy on DA

WHERE: This took place through Facebook through her personal profile. This is her IMVU account, the products were to be made and delivered through IMVU. IMVU for Dao
My IMVU account, where the products were supposed to be delivered

WHAT: This was for a custom furset for IMVU. Custom AdSkin, kini, ears, tail, hands, feet products. I sent her my reference and all of the mesh links she would need for the set. She said $30 was fine, I sent her $32. (As I normally send a couple of dollars more to cover fees) Here are the screenshots of our conversation that took place via Facebook. Dao1, Dao2, Dao3, Dao4

WHEN: I first contacted her December 5th of 2016, December 6th I canceled my order and was blocked, December 7th I filed a claim with PayPal, December 15th I received the email saying she provided tracking information and the case was closed, December 17th first appeal denied, the last email I received by from PayPal was March 23rd of 2017 saying that my second appeal complete with screenshots of my IMVU account was denied.

PROOF: PayPal Case, First Appeal, Second Appeal, Blocked FB, Friends Only on IMVU, MY IMVU INV - SEARCHED

EXPLAIN: Well I posted an ad in one of the furry Facebook groups asking if anyone would be up to making a furset for me on IMVU. Dao (Facebook name omitted for privacy) messaged me via Facebook messenger and I sent her the mesh links and the cash for what I wanted. I had a personal emergency come up and needed to cancel. I felt bad for having to cancel, but I thought since she stated she had another set to finish before she got to mine maybe it would not be too bad. To my surprise, she tells me she finished the skin and already submitted it to the IMVU catalog without even showing me first. I was a little confused by that but decided if she could just show me proof/show me the skin then I would let her keep a portion for her work/time. That's when things got odd because she told me I was really putting her in a bind and that PayPal was where she paid her bills? I did not find that to be appropriate or relevant but it was right after she said she would "get that processed" for me that she blocked me. I tried typing out a response and I got the little pop-up message telling me "this person is not receiving message from you at this time". I honestly took that as a big red flag and consulted with my friends and family on what I should do/did. I waited a day for the refund/reversal and then just went to PayPal to make a claim. It was going to be a dispute but at the time since she had me blocked I thought a claim would be best. I waited until the 15th, that's when I got an email back from PayPal telling me the case had been closed because the seller (Dao) had provided tracking info and confirmed I received my merchandise. I was confused and very frustrated, it was a digital product I ordered. How could they have taken tracking info from her and say it's confirmed when I have proof showing I have nothing in my account from her? I decided to call again and appeal my case. It was shot down almost immediately, on the 17th they had denied my first appeal stating that the seller had provided "compelling information" for my case in their favor. In truth, I gave up for awhile. I figured she just won and I was never getting anything back. I just got ripped off for $32 for nothing. Then a few days ago I had to file a dispute for a totally different issue and the supervisor I spoke with said I should send more screenshots and appeal again. I didn't even know that was an option but I figured I might as well. After another hour or so on the phone the supervisor told me she would contact me directly. Well, that never happened and some representative named "Bob" sent me an email yesterday telling me my screenshots did not prove anything. So I guess I'm just posting this here in hopes to either have this resolved or at the very least share my experience with you guys/potential customers of hers.

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Pregnant artists. Comfy positions? Advice?

I'm having a little trouble being 6 months pregnant at this point to find comfortable positions and ways to draw while sitting at my desk.

Is there anyone here that can give me a little advice, and maybe share personal experiences for others that may one day be in a similar situation?

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Mar. 20th, 2017

Not QUITE a beware yet, but more me asking for advice.

On the 9th February I ordered a custom kigu, and got an email to say that payment had been accepted. The weeks went by, and despite the website having said somewhere they had a fast turnaround, I figured they'd have been busy with con prep, so I didn't say anything until after the cons were all done.

Over the last two weeks I've been contacting them on twitter and via email asking for updates, because someone else has a kigu in the works from them, and they got given a private link to their trello board, and have wip's started, but they paid much later than I did.

I'm not sure how much longer to keep trying to get them to talk to me before I give up and open a paypal dispute (obviously with giving them a warning) because I've spent a lot of money, and to have NO communication at all is a little... well, worrying.

Do I give them a final warning email / tweet, or do I keep waiting and hoping they'll work on my kigu? They've been making steady progress with their queue, but without knowing exactly how big the queue is, I don't know if mine will be started soon or not >.<

Thanks for your advice!

*EDIT*

They've responded now - they apparently sent me an email last week, but I never received it - regardless, I have progress photos of my kigu, and it's in the process of being sewn together!

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Edit: I've removed the IG account, and as of yet, there is no response to my chargeback threat. I also can not find any more of my notes asking them for updates (as I regularly clean my mailboxes, if I find any or receive a reply or issue the chargeback, I will keep you updated.) I've also included evidence that my chargeback has not been opened, as well as that my Feb 6th note was read.

Edit 2: They never responded to the chargeback note (or opened it) so have included evidence of the paypal claim (I escalated straight to them), they have until the 27th to respond to paypal, as of today (21st of March) there is still no conversation between them and the seller as it still says "awaiting response" on the claim.

First off, forgive me if this is incorrect in any way, I'm new here and am incredibly anxious about posting and didn't really want for it to get this way but I feel I've been patient enough after 4 months of minimal contact and I have now issued a warning about a chargeback. Please note I wouldn't have been this patient if it wasn't for the fact this person seemed to be in dire need when I commissioned them.

WHO: Inkeyu of FA also known as Karma Kolors / KarmaManyBlood

WHERE: FA: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/inkeyu/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/KarmaManyblood
Etsy:https://www.etsy.com/shop/KarmasKolors?ref=pr_shop_more
-The latter links seem dead however

WHAT: Mini character in a bottle pendant.

PROOF: - Initial discussion: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x6euqpv14nqgkgt/Initial_Discussion%20edited.jpg?dl=0
- Proof of purchase: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebbmxgyoubn8byo/Proof_of_payment%20edited.jpg?dl=0
- Us discussing details: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8rojbr59x49g5qs/Discussing%20Pendant%20%281%29.png?dl=0 and https://www.dropbox.com/s/hpwe9vm50u5wzrp/Discussing%20Pendant%20%282%29.png?dl=0 and https://www.dropbox.com/s/11rikcsntduqrkb/Discussing%20Pendant%20%283%29.png?dl=0
- One of several attempts to get in touch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wk96n03skt54oq0/Feb%206th%20Contact%20Attempt.png?dl=0
- Evidence that screencap has been read: https://www.dropbox.com/s/01denkbf162xk7b/Previously_read_note%20edited.jpg?dl=0
- I have screencaps of me talking to another customer (which I can add if needed)
- Me threatening a chargeback: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8us4e8s8kvpku1w/Inkeyu%20chargeback%20warning.png?dl=0
Chargeback currently unread (Thursday 16th March, 8.45GMT): https://www.dropbox.com/s/5th9d5bcvh5ktko/Chargeback_unread%20edited.jpg?dl=0
Paypal claim (still awaiting reply, 21st March, 22.54GMT): https://www.dropbox.com/s/6bn8cncsfav55t2/Chargeback.jpg?dl=0

WHEN: December 2nd 2016 (given her 48hr warning of a chargeback March 15th 2017)

EXPLAIN: I came across this individual in an FALAH (FA Lend a Hand) ad saying she was in a dire situation and needed funds, so was initially going to do a half and half trade of cash and writing for one of these pendants. I got paid around then, so instead decided to pay them the full asking price of $25 after some discussion (see "initial discussion" above) since I figured they'd appreciate it more. They asked for payment, which I sent on December 2nd 2016 (see "proof of purchase").

They were initially chatty (see links under "discussing details") and in good contact for a fair few weeks. Around six weeks in, I sent them a polite message to ask for progress, which was responded to by them saying they were busy as their situation was even more dire (I could only find their journal asking for help, and will link this if needed). I did some boosting online in an attempt to help them on my Twitter in the hope they would get to my piece faster, and left them be for another couple of weeks.

I then attempted to contact them again (and several times since, like in the Feb 6th screenshot "one of several attempts to get in touch") and noticed that my notes were getting ignored (see "evidence read"). I would contact approximately once a fortnight, and every time the note was opened but never replied to. By this time I was beginning to feel put out, so decided to contact the customer ahead of me in the queue. They explained that Inkeyu worked in the same facility as them, and was under a lot of work pressure, but was going to tell them to respond to me and keep me in the loop (can link this if needed). This was around the end of February and I've still had no contact.

I feel crap for doing it, but I'm finally at a point where I am a little suspicious and a little bit dejected. I've issued a 48hr warning before I file a chargeback (see "chargeback") which has been currently unread (see "chargeback unread"). I feel like I've tried to help someone in need and it's backfired on me, and now I fear I'm taking money from the mouth of someone who really needs it even though I don't want to lose that money myself. Chargeback warning issued on March 15th at 20.08GMT and I will update as and when needed.
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