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A place to voice positive or difficult experiences with commissioners or artists. This includes both paid transactions and art trades. Customer and artist reviews, lost contacts, and reports of art theft are welcome.

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[sticky post] How to handle being posted to AB

You've Been Posted to Artists Beware... Now What?

Artists Beware can be a powerful place. With thousands of members and readers, that is a lot of people who will see your name. It is completely understandable the stress, frustration, anger, worry, and anxiety having a beware posted about yourself may bring.

However, many times it is not the actual post on its own that will ruin a reputation. Instead, it is how the artist or commissioner reacts to it. This post is here to help you figure out what to do if you end up here, and sincerely want to smooth over your newly ruffled reputation.

  • First thing's first... DON'T PANIC. The absolute WORST thing you can do is respond while you're emotional. Get a hold of yourself, walk away and calm down before coming back to defend yourself.

  • If the beware is a result of genuine wrong-doing (even if accidental on your part), don't make excuses, or try to guilt trip the OP with your problems. People will see right through it and it will definitely lower their opinion of you. It makes you sound insincere in wanting to fix things when you come off as if you are looking for sympathy or to get out of your responsibilities instead.

  • Be respectful and polite, it will go a long, long way. Many times, people earn business if they handle a problem gracefully and with tact. In turn, the opposite reaction will net you the opposite result, and you don't want that.

  • Do not ask/demand/blackmail/hint for the OP to delete the post! I can't stress this enough. It makes you look shady, and people WILL take note of it. If things are resolved, we have a 'resolved' tag specifically for that, and the OP can update their post to reflect the resolution. Deleting the post is unnecessary and contradictory to the purpose of AB as a whole, as well as disrespectful to the userbase. Do not do this. It will most likely end in getting both you and the OP banned, and the post will merely be reposted anyway.

  • DO NOT send your friends/SO/whoever to fight your battles for you! This is one of the worst things you can do. You WILL be judged to an extent by the company you keep, and if someone you know comes in frothing at the mouth in defense of you, cursing and raging at the members, it will be theirs AND your reputation that will suffer for it. Try to avoid 'whiteknights', and understand that you yourself coming in and being respectful and honest with an explanation, apology, and resolution will do far more for you than your friends ever could.

  • Ultimately, your goal should be fixing the problem and earning that Resolved tag. After all, if you messed up, why wouldn't you want to try to make everybody happy by fixing the issue? Keep that in mind at all times when you are replying.

  • When defending yourself against genuinely untrue claims, do what you can to show proof as politely and calmly as possible. If the OP is downright lying or omitting information, and you can prove it, AB members will react appropriately and moderator action may be taken against the offending OP.

  • Understand that AB isn't a group of dramallama meanie jerkfaces who want nothing more than to see you suffer. The members of AB work with the information they're given at the time, and they will be honest, even if it's not something you want to hear. But if you've made a mistake and are genuinely apologetic, you will be surprised how helpful and sympathetic the members will be. Treat them with respect, and they'll do the same for you.

  • Never pull the 'I have a life' excuse. Everybody has a life. Rarely is anyone's life so busy that they can not do what ended up getting them posted here, and if it is, you shouldn't be taking commissions/getting commissions/whatever to begin with. If something does come up, update them personally! Don't leave them in the dark or expect them to search for information. Fulfilling the agreements you make, whether you are a customer or an artist, should be an important part of your life and sense of character. If it isn't, well, that's probably why you're on AB.



    Okay. Just keep this in mind, then. Don't freak out, be respectful when replying, don't send your friends or SO to whiteknight for you and don't demand the OP take down the post. If you genuinely want to fix things, behave like it, and you'll be fine!

    If I missed anything or anyone has anything to add, feel free to do so!
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    Artist Advice: Paypal

    So I'm new to the world of sellng art, as in just this week did I decide to sell adopts. I made a Paypal account, set it up from what I thought, read up about creating invoices, everything was going smooth until I made my first sell. At first it wouldn't let me accept money, so I upgraded to a business account. Things when fine after that, but I want to make sure I'm doing things right.

    My first question is, should I have upgraded to a business account? I plan to sell more adopts in the future mind you.

    Also What is the right way to set up an Invoice? One that doesn't expect me to ship something.

    Sorry if I posted this wrong, I'm also new to this community.

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    Beware: Gorehund

    EDIT: Added title!

    WHO:
    https://twitter.com/gorehund / http://www.furaffinity.net/user/gorehund


    WHERE: Commission started over Twitter initially, then contact migrated to Telegram.


    WHAT: A traditional badge to be finished by AC, two stickers, then a digital icon as compensation for trouble

    WHEN: Started May 20, 2016, ended September 22, 2016


    PROOF: I will link proof throughout the explanation, but here is the entire imgur album: http://imgur.com/a/PiTG5


    EXPLAIN: Explanation under the cutCollapse )

    This transaction is complete and I have received everything I've paid for but after being lied to, told my badge would be shipped multiple times, and being told that the icon would be finished on multiple occasions but wasn't, I cannot recommend this artist to anybody. Their art style is wonderful but the customer service leaves a lot to be desired and I do not want anybody else to have to deal with this kind of service.
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    Beware: AutopsyJuice

    WHO: AutopsyJuice / LeftoverAutopsyJuice

    WHERE: https://picarto.tv/LeftoverAutopsyJuice
    http://autopsyjuice.deviantart.com/
    http://autopsy-juice.tumblr.com/
    http://www.furaffinity.net/user/leftoverautopsyjuice/ (disabled account)


    WHAT: Two sets of digital colour character sheets. Total cost was US$ 210

    WHEN: December 2013. Artist was paid fully in advance.


    PROOF:

    2013 Paypal Payment: https://vgy.me/Nr2TD6.jpg
    2016 reestablishment of contact: https://vgy.me/ULSF2B.jpg
    2016 chat on Picarto: https://vgy.me/R6gvs3.jpg

    EXPLAIN: Initially this commission went well, with the first half of the art completed in good time and to my general satisfaction. First character sheet was completed around February 2014. The artist was then left to complete the rest of the commission. Personal life upheavals ensued in mid 2014, and I did not have the time to check in on the artist’s progress. No attempt was made by the artist to contact me from that time to this.

    In May 2016 I re-established contact with the artist, who seemed agreeable to finishing the commission. Subsequent attempts to contact them, though their DA account, Skype and private messaging on their Picarto stream yielded no response. Only in September 2016, when asking to speak via the public chat on their Picarto, did they reply.

    At that point I was told that they wanted to do something, but that they neither had the money to refund the remainder of the commission payment, nor the time to finish the commission. No practical means of achieving a resolution was offered. The dispute is ongoing.
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    Beware: Moneychan/Flamedragonkitten

    WHO: Moneychan/Flamedragonkitten

    WHERE:
    http://www.furaffinity.net/user/moneychan (Main account- Disabled)
    http://www.furaffinity.net/user/flamedragonkitten/ ('Owed Artwork account' Barely used and contact was mainly through main account)

    WHAT: 1,000$ 6 page, ych comic.

    WHEN: Started on 03/11/2015 and is still ongoing.

    PROOF: Posted down below.

    EXPLAIN:

    March 11th-16th, 2015
    I saw Moneychan was doing a really nice 'Strip gamer YCH', the quality of the piece was a ladder auction and she has wrote what the tiers were in another journal. (Which has since been deleted) The highest tier was full coloured and set at an auto-buy of 1,000$. She stated in the description if the bidding went over 500 she would take payment plans. I won with a bid of 600$ (I'm not 100% sure but I believe the tier was flat coloured sketch) and she responded telling me to note her with refs and such. I sent her a note with character references and my Paypal and discussed a payment plan with her. She told me she would send me two invoices and I could pay half now and send the other half within the 2 month limit. I sent her my first half (300$) and she confirmed receiving it.

    Original ych with bids and description: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/15964028/ (nsfw)
    Following notes: https://gyazo.com/0792305ae5e0028aed2a63eafb7f348f https://gyazo.com/577d39a02c062e7a86f0a1880e495b24

    April 2nd, 2015
    After discussing it with my partner at the time I decided I really wanted to get the highest tier of quality so I noted her asking if she would be okay with sending me another invoice so I could have the highest quality. After some confusion with the invoices she sent another invoice and I paid it. (400$)

    Following notes: https://gyazo.com/e4c2358a938de11e2cdf7a9711e7cf95 https://gyazo.com/6778bbcf0ff9515a78955be79dc0657d https://gyazo.com/67500cb11b2d4f4f512b563a45026dec https://gyazo.com/61b3dbb654c5c4a2f596dc8e994c360d

    April 30th, 2015
    I paid the last invoice (300$) and she replied telling me she would start on it soon along with her other comic.

    Note: https://gyazo.com/22d3426cf14b5dbce30e59d32e402d96

    March 28th-30th, 2015
    I sent her a note to her 'owed artwork' account because I thought she would want to speak on that one asking when she would be working on my commission. It went unread despite being active and she was also active on her main account so I thought I would note her there as well. She replied telling me that she would start on it when she got a chance and that there we're two comics ahead of me as well.
    Following notes: https://gyazo.com/a044a80060fdf66dc14276156c2d356f https://gyazo.com/62ed06459bdb46e7c138a4778a2dbf06

    I don't have the dates for this as not only is her account disabled but I think the journals were deleted anyways but not too long after our conversations she had posted a journal saying that due to not being able to pay for her internet bill she wouldn't have it for a few months and wouldn't be on until fall.

    October 5th, 2015
    I didn't see her active online again until around October but in September my partner at the time and I had a 'falling out' and we're no longer together and I didn't want to have my character in a comic with his anymore. I noted her asking if she could change the male character to my pet's sona and explained the situation to her. She replied telling me that she was sorry about what had happened and told me she was already into the flat colouring stage (I hadn't received any WIPs or news that she was even working on it) and that to change the character would take longer. I told her that I didn't mind waiting and that I would really like for her to change the character. She replied telling me that she appreciated my patience and would do it.

    Following notes: https://gyazo.com/86a5f2513886b5957b641539e8b799ff https://gyazo.com/8b57800096120c51c91a825c6ff7bdf5

    January 26th, 2016
    I didn't hear from her at all but saw that she had been taking commissions, posting owed artwork (a comic included) and doing personal artwork over the last few months so I decided to note her on her 'owed artwork' account as she was most active on that one, asking if she had had any updates and that I was in no rush since she had to redraw the male character but just wanted to check in. She responded saying that 'the comic commissions are the last things on her to-do list' and that she had 5 comics in total to complete. Last time I had spoke to she had told me she had only two ahead of mine and as I said above she had already posted a comic since then so I asked her about that. She responded saying 'it is two, yours and another commissioner' and that the others we're from another strip auction and that she was including her own personal comic as one.

    Following notes: https://gyazo.com/64a476f33e402e70788d9de528a261c3 https://gyazo.com/1e6119253cd562296907b39bde33f21c

    March 30th-31st, 2016
    She sent me a note saying that she was working on my comic and was asking about if I had any png's for my (now) mates fursona's tattoo's. I replied to her telling her that I didn't and in a second note asked if she had any WIPs (I assumed she would have since I would think tattoo's would be in the colouring phase) and after sending that one my mate had mentioned that it would be okay for her to just trace over his tattoos so I sent her a third one telling her that as well. She told me that she was nervous about sending out WIPs but she would try to clean them up a bit and send them out as 'she's made me wait so long.' I responded to her telling her I was looking forward to seeing them.

    Following notes: https://gyazo.com/fd42978fac50e923e2a5bb3ed7980aab https://gyazo.com/24b9a91e43d4b8087ae96e0f6cedcb6e https://gyazo.com/d7377360c7c9758f78b7d5159fa9e1d5 https://gyazo.com/3087c8b0622c0676b0118b4e1d08093b https://gyazo.com/72c6a1ea0f8043bd4cb57a4f9560e851

    April 17th, 2016
    I had disabled my page for a few days due to drama and while it was disabled she had posted a journal saying she would be sending out WIPs to commissioners. When I enabled it I sent her a message checking in to see if she tried noting me. She responded saying that it was fine and that she just wanted to note me to tell me she would be clean sketching and line-arting the comic tomorrow. I told her that if she had any WIPs she wanted to send I would love to see them but if not it would be fine. She replied 'kk' and never sent me anything.

    Following notes: https://gyazo.com/6693ce191fd42b4e0279b2fc287cd37a https://gyazo.com/6ed6a6dee6a4e070fd355d36ab64fd58

    July 17th, 2016
    I hadn't heard from her in three months and was starting to get worried. I noted her telling her I needed some sort of physical update as it had been over a year since I commissioned it and three months since I last heard from her. She responded saying that she was sorry and didn't really have any physical proof besides sketches that she had 'barely started on'and that she was finishing all the pinup commissions she had taken and finishing someone else's commission who was ahead of me. Her priority now was mine and Lil-Maj's comic but she was lacking motivation and that they had been just sitting on Sai 'waiting to be done' and asked me if I still wanted to see the sketches. I told her that I would even if they we're just sketches.

    She replied with a Dropbox link leading to the first two comic pages very roughly sketched and the second one wasn't even done being sketched out. I was honestly shocking as I was expecting her to at least had all of the pages sketched out as she had not only told me that she was all the way up to colour before I changed the second character but told me she was up to lining even after the character change. I bit my tongue and tried to ignore the fact that she had been lying to me and just told her about how I had a new reference sheet that was in the works that was clearer than my previous one and sent it to her in case she needed it to help with sketching. We talked back and forth about my fursona's markings a bit before this conversation had ended.

    Following notes: https://gyazo.com/11e66ad2ceec40ff12675bdac13a91d8 https://gyazo.com/4fc089157fab581f735066a2cdba839e
    Sketches she sent me: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fxxlgs4zgltt3ab/AAC1WO-fMkCUVgR_u9KBB5cda?dl=0 (Nsfw? They don't show any genitals but there are breast outlines and such)

    September 19th, 2016
    I was updating my commissions list when I decided to go to her profile to ask for an update and to my horror her page had been disabled. I had to dig through my notes to find her other account's name which is still enabled. She hasn't uploaded anything on it since April and last favourited something a month ago. I sent her a note telling her that I was upset that she had disabled her account and that I had to dig to find her other one as she hadn't left any contact information otherwise and told her about all the red flags she was setting off. I told her that I either wanted my commission done by October 31st (my birthday) or a refund as this is getting ridiculous.

    Note: https://gyazo.com/41e4e36c0eb71490448b667e7305cdf6

    It's now September, 21st and the note has been read but unanswered. I'm honestly very upset about this as this is a large sum of money that I may not get back. I have no idea what to do.

    Edit: I publicly tweeted them as they do not have dm's enabled.
    "I am once again trying to get into contact with you over the 1,000$ commission I am owed. Please message me on my fa asap."
    I also messaged them on DA saying...
    "I saw that you read my note and haven't responded and have been active on here as well as twitter so I will message you again here. Please respond with how to plan to correct this as I've been more than fair about it."

    Here's hoping.

    Edit 2: She responded to me on twitter saying that 'she hadn't been on fa since she disabled it back in June' and that she would Dm me. She dm'd me saying she was sorry about how long she was taking but she was busy with her fulltime job and was trying to finish commissions as quick as possible. I stood my ground and told her that Fa showed she read my message and that I know she is working but I will have to still set a deadline. She understood but asked me to delete my public tweet to avoid drama. I gave her my deadline and deleted the tweet and told her I would be capping it.
    Tweet: https://gyazo.com/156138889e14a71f73f52b8e4ba052d5
    Messages: https://gyazo.com/33c2175eae24792b48d48259712f3094

    I now realize I probably shouldn't have told her about the capping but I was quite aggravated that she claimed she hadn't been on fa when my note had been read. I guess I will have another update by the deadline to whether or not this is resolved.
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    Beware: Furtastic Fursuits

    WHERE: Through Facebook, original sales post was removed by them.

    WHAT: $160 DVC small k9 blank with parts installed.

    WHEN: August 24th, 2016

    PROOF: Initial contact: http://imgur.com/a/Cswp1
    Proof of payment: http://imgur.com/a/0iTW8
    Asking about shipping: http://imgur.com/a/B6638
    Asking again, telling them about USPS pick-up: http://imgur.com/a/pKmd8
    Asking, no responses: http://imgur.com/a/zyUQY
    Getting a response but nothing promising, then asking for a refund. The last message Facebook says they read was at 2:56. http://imgur.com/a/UAvHV
    More being ignored. http://imgur.com/a/WIANH

    EXPLAIN: Haley was offering a DVC small canine base up for sale on the "fursuit makers and furry artists" group on Facebook so I hopped on the opportunity since I needed one. Suffice to say I have yet to receive the product and actually ordered 6 resin bases from DVC on the same day a few hours earlier and have already received that before this.

    It should be noted that I HAVE called PayPal about it and they refuse to issue me a claim because it was sent through the equivalent of "friends and family" while I had my student account (it sends everything outside of website purchases as such). At this point I may never receive my money nor my product.

    EDIT September 19: She has posted a smaller A_B about me to a Facebook group using screenshots I posted above. I censored names of people not involved but she makes bold claims about me scamming other people, calls me "stupid" and a hypocrite, has spent the money I sent for the base so the option of a refund is no longer there and makes some unnecessary comments about my "perfect life". She has yet to message me back since Saturday so I did not know she apparently plans on sending out the base this weekend had I not received these screenshots.
    http://imgur.com/a/o6voS
    http://imgur.com/a/2uTGc
    http://imgur.com/a/muhIM
    http://imgur.com/a/Y2GBe
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    Beware: Onnanoko

    WHERE: BLFC 2016

    WHAT: $100 'Full Color' Piece

    WHEN: May 13, 2016

    PROOF: http://imgur.com/a/V9Ed8

    EXPLAIN: I commissioned Onnanoko, in person, at BLFC in May of 2016. Since then she has not reached out at all. I have emailed four times with no reply. The payment was made using my debit card, in person, not PayPal. The reason for the two purchases is because, at first, she did not charge me for the right type of commission ($80). We then ran another $20 transaction to meet the proper $100 amount.

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    Beware: rachVerity

    WHO: rachVerity

    WHERE: (NSFW) http://www.furaffinity.net/user/rachverity/

    WHAT: $200 (Split $125 me/$75 Fischer) Art bundle to assist rach when her PC died. Bundle included a reference sheet and three pieces of digital art.

    WHEN: May 15th, 2014

    PROOF: Paypal payment: http://imgur.com/rPhp9wV
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    [Resubmitted as a more general post per mod request; sorry for messing up the first time! Didn't know name mentions extended to usernames, I'm a derp.]

    I need advice/help in figuring out why I'm so bothered by something.
    A few months ago, an artist I used to watch had posted an adoptable for sale, based on the protagonist from the game Bloodborne. They did the same a while later with the Dark Souls 3 protagonist, citing 'inspiration'.

    In the beginning, when the artist had only posted the first two designs based on the proganonists of these games, I was not bothered. They were recognizable, but it seemed permissible.
    However, the artist has been posting more and more designs from the Souls game series, as they 'sell like hotcakes', and they have been creeping towards outright plagiarism [and as a professed fine arts major, should know better]. I could recognize all of the named characters immediately without even clicking on the submissions. They haven't bothered to change their original names in the submission descriptions or even fiddle with their outfits at all, save for removing their pants, really. The only major difference is that they're furries and not humans.

    Is it morally acceptable for an artist in the furry community to sell adoptables that are no different from copyrighted characters, save for being furry versions of them? In fursuiting [an adjacent part of the fandom], for example, it's not considered okay to rip off someone's style, let alone entire characters, and suits based on existing copyrighted characters from pop culture are recognized as cosplays [as opposed to original/owned-by-suiter characters]. Designs that are similar to others within the fandom are met with much skepticism and scrutiny.

    Is it okay to rip off of copyrighted characters from video games, etc., even though those characters were created by another artist and are owned by that artist and their company? This money clearly isn't going towards helping FromSoftware pay the artists that did the work to conceptualize these characters, so it bothers me a lot. Please help, AB! Is there anything that can be done? SHOULD anything be done? Or do these count as a form of 'design cosplay', if that is even a legitimate term for adoptables/art designs intended to be sold?

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    Artist Beware: Vani/AshKetchumSays

    EDIT 9/14/2016: Issued a dispute over PayPal. Artist immediately contacted me via Twitter and has agreed upon a completion date, that being towards the end of the month. (https://www.dropbox.com/s/if8mxpaqzt3horm/Screen%20Shot%202016-09-14%20at%206.47.48%20PM.png?dl=0 ) If I do not receive an update, refund, or the artwork itself, I will be getting PayPal involved by filing a claim.
    -
    EDIT 9/12/2016: Added some examples of what the finished sketches SHOULD look like to dropbox!

    WHO: Vani / AshKetchumSays

    WHERE: Twitter
    WHAT: Traditional Portrat Sketches ($86.50USD Total)
    WHEN: Initial Conversation: Began June 4th 2016
    Payment Agreed Upon & Sent: June 14th 2016
    Received first pass/WIP of commission: June 25th 2016
    Signs of Trouble Began: July 21st 2016

    PROOF:
    All messages are through twitter, stamped with appropriate dates, PayPal info as well->
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oeaqa7f60h04n7k/AAAwREd1IFwb0rshXCNV3uPEa?dl=0
    What my finished commission SHOULD look like -> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yypupu1d604gljn/Ck7aZUzUUAE2odg.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/084xnnkgzv0optk/CkH1H4HUUAEEWTv.jpg?dl=0

    Explain: First of all, I am an artist myself who does freelancing, and normally I wouldn't make reports on other artists as I am a very reasonable person when commissioning other artists as I understand how stressful the process can be and how long it can take.
    But anyway!

    Always been a fan of Vani's work, and seeing that they were offering sketches for a good price got me super excited to finally order something featuring my characters.

    June: Communication started off really well! I knew they were taking a lot of commissions, so I honestly wasn't worried about how long they'd take, as I am a very patient person. An agreement for the final paymet was made, and commission progress began. Within a couple weeks, I received WIPs. They DEFINITELY didn't seem as good as her previous sketched portraits she was doing..I could tell they were likely feeling burnt out, but I didn't bother judging too hard as they are just WIPs. Still looking forward to the final pieces.

    July: Towards the end of June she gave me a good long update about how they'll be busy prepping to sell at a convention, therefore making a delay on the sketches. Completely fine with that, as I had seen the roughs so I knew they'd get done in no time..or so I thought. Sent in an update of a reference for one of my characters...no response whatsoever, even though they were/are on twitter quite frequently. If you check their twitter account, this was also around the time their troubles rose and they began taking on more commissions, creating adoptables and selling them, trying to earn more money and moving old commissions, including mine, back in their queue.

    August: Tried contacting them again for an update. Finally got a response; a lengthy one at that, which I honestly don't care about. I just want to know a time estimate for completion. This was when their housing troubles and whatever else were brought to me personally, though I already sort of knew about based on their twitter posts. I come back rather short, as my frustration began kicking in, knowing they clearly have time to work on my commissions, but is yet, focusing on others, new orders at that, in order to make quick money. I bring up the option of a refund (partial, considering they did have WIPs completed), because at this point I'm doubting itll ever get done and I'd rather give my money to an artist more reliable and professional, despite how talented Vani is. No means for refund at given time, so we agree that the following week she'll have them done, and once again, I remain patient with them.

    September: At this point I'm just fed up and frustrated. Way past the date we agreed for completion, so I ask for a refund. Comes back saying they're completely unable to, yet, oh look! In one of the screenshots I provide, they just received money from a recent auction, but yet, still can't refund me my portion of payment for the pieces I commissioned from them (no idea how much the Auto Buy went for in the auction, clearly a lot more then the previous bid though). At this point I stop replying. I'm not getting my money back, my art will not be completed.

    If it's done, it'll be a miracle, but for now, I HIGHLY recommend NOT commissioning this artist until they smarten up, sorts out their financial situations and develop a better professional attitude when doing business with clients such as myself.
    I've spoke with other friends who have commissioned them and they're also waiting on art from them (though at a much longer wait period than myself) and they're equally frustrated.
    I'm just completely disappointed in this whole situation, and definitely don't want others going through this with her as well. I'm fine waiting long periods of time for art, but when I see her posting more art, adoptables, commissioning openings, etc, its like a big slap in the face to those still waiting on art from them.
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